GeneDavis

Sold as "cow panel" in Texas, the natives of which have a fine way with words.

Who builds by using a scale on prints? Are you using Chief print-to-pdf? At 1:1? As for printing, I'd only trust a repro shop that regularly does con docs. Or an excellent online biz like blueprintprinting.com.

I can make that work, but want the blocked pair to be assigned a single cabinet label for planview and schedule. Edit. And . . . I figure it out. Now I've a second way to do fridge panels, and this one shows correct in planview without all the other cabs needing to display doors and drawerfronts.

Thought I'd start a new thread because this isn't how to build a fridge panel with the cabs tools, but how to control visibility in a plan. I got totally stumped trying to get the 2D planview to show the panel with its stile front, but finally read all the fine print, watched Mark's vid, read KBird's post, and it dawned. Go to Plan Defaults, Cabinets, and check to view doors and drawerfronts in plan view. I built my fridge panels and saved them as library objects. Now how can I place in a plan and for only the fridge panels, see in plan view the doors and drawerfronts, but only for the fridge panels?

Thanks to Mark and KBird and others who have helped me.

I spent an hour last night in X13 trying to scratch build one alongside the one in Mark's file, and am failing to do whatever little move is needed to get a panel to render proper in 3d. This application of the cabinet tool has to be one of the most non-intuitive things done in Chief, to get a result needed in most every kitchen. it deserves a video that clearly describes the steps.

It's Danver with an A.

OK, I downloaded the plan MarkMcK posted and manipulated the side-panel-as-cabinet to get the slab side and front 1x2 stile, but while it shows as it should in 3D it does not look like what Mark can do in another plan he did (not posted plan, images only). I show here my results and in one image of plan view, show how the cab looks and in another image, show my preferred look, which allows me to easily call out in a zoom detail of the plan view, how the panel is made of a slab with a stile front. How do you do it, Mark?

Because the trusses have 2x8 top chords and the builder wanted it this way.

Exact. https://3d-viewer.chiefarchitect.com/go?share=453127181375659

Can you better explain for me: "face and side are side panel inset?" Your image looks like a cabinet side with 3" width faceframe stile, nothing else.

Can't use Chief at the moment. An island is 24d and 12d basecabs backed to each other, and need end panels, stile and rail, bottom rail tall, others all with width equal to what the flat panel shaker doors have. Fridge panels are painted 3/4 ply but have 1-1/2 wide face parts. To get the look in 3D I used 1.5 thick partitions. Now I want this better detailed so the schedule includes these panel items and shown the way they'll be bought and installed.

If you want an image to share, or import to a layout page, doing the surface-delete thing doesn't take much work.

Only way I know is to break the wall into multiple segments.

3D molding polyline.

Are you well-trained in HVAC design? Are you being paid by the hour to do this? Chief CAD will work OK to do this. If you have some 2D images or drawings of fittings in plan view, you can use to draw Chief CAD atop, then copy and place wherever needed.

So you have a layout page that is titled "Main Floor Plan," and you want a SPV named "Main Floor Plan?" Is this it?

Nice technique, Mark. When it comes to Chief cabinets, you're my favorite guru. I bring my applied ends out with their frontside edges flush to the drawer and d'box fronts, so when modifying your model I get the countertop projecting out also. Do you have the trick, or is it custom countertop time when doing applied ends my way?

You are correct, but without the right symbols for such an arrangement, we just have to do one door and stack a symbol. If the client wants to get it built, is it really really necessary that the 3D view show the detail seen in the attached pic? In another thread that focuses on cabinet doors, do we want our 3D (or rather do our clients want this photorealistic detail) to show those little cabinet door bumpers when the doors are open? Knob screwheads on the inside face of drawerboxes?

'Cuz that's what it is. Two doors, two tracks, stacked.

CAD objects? Text? Dimensions? Symbols? Need much more detail to be able to guide you.

Sounds like you have some specifying to do. Whatever you put in your plan at whatever spec, it what the program counts.

Why not "3/4" PANEL" callout with an arrow? When would a kitchen plan have differing end panel thicknesses? Why couldn't one note suffice to ID all applied ends? If the panels are integrated into carcase build and not applied, why cannot that be simply annotated? But my bigger question is, did Rene make it nice and clear and easy, and if no, why not? Are you able to give us an example of what your fully dimensioned kitchen elevation (one will do, just screenshot it) needs to show.

Attach the image please so we don't have to download the file. We'd like a look, but don't want your file on our drives.

Yes! And thanks to the guy in the great white north. Or great wet north. In the northern Adirondacks, we had 8.5 inches of rain in July. Edit > Arc Creation Modes > Start/Tangent/End Arc is the mode one wants for this elegant curvy mode of annotation. Put "Arc With Arrow" tool on your toolbar and you are in biz to leave the world of linear anno.