simonas Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 Hi all, silly question, but can not remember where do you control this diamond placement. You see on first screenshot is at the bottom (interior layer) and second is on the exterior of the main layer. Where do you change this ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe_Carrick Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 Main Layer. It depends which version of Chief you are using as to how that can be changed. X7's dialog is different than X6. In X7 you have Exterior, Main & Interior Layers and you can rearrange them by moving up or down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonas Posted February 8, 2015 Author Share Posted February 8, 2015 Hi Joe , main layer got nothing to do with it. Moving layers up/down don't do much. The diamond still sits at the bottom. I'm on X7. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyGump Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 Ah, just click on the interior part of the wall for the handles (diamond?) to show up on the interior half of the wall and on the exterior half to show on the exterior part of the wall. At least, I think this is what you are asking about. Andy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe_Carrick Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 Simonas, Please show the Wall Type Dialogs for those two walls. I'm positive that the Main Layer is what controls this. It's always been that way and I just tried it in X7 and it is the way it works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonas Posted February 8, 2015 Author Share Posted February 8, 2015 Andy, selecting wall on interior part or exterior part makes no difference. Joe - I send you my screenshots. The first with diamond on interior side is my default plan and second in Chiefs default template planM. I also attached my plan here. Untitled 6.plan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe_Carrick Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 Simonas, I don't know how you did this, but the last Layer in your wall is blank. In addition, the 2nd Layer should not be in the Main Section. I have no idea how to fix this other than to start over with a NEW Default Template. You should send this Plan to Support and see if they can figure out what's wrong. It shouldn't have been possible to get this kind of Wall Type Definition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRAWZILLA Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 Joe, I have noticed that some of my walls from X6 added a layer in the main section when I brought them forward from X6. Had to go through a fix them, but only a few of them not all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe_Carrick Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 Perry, I understand and I've been able to fix any of mine that had that problem. What I don't understand and is really the problem with Simonas' Wall Types is the fact that the Last Layer is "Blank". ie: it has no material, no thickness, etc. OTOH, maybe it's something to do with the metric dimensions vs english. The Wall Type Definitions seem to be different in some way that I can't resolve. Maybe one of the other Metric users can figure it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solution Joe_Carrick Posted February 8, 2015 Solution Share Posted February 8, 2015 OK, I figured it out. Simonas had the Defaults for Resize About set to "Inner Surface". It needs to be "Outside Main Layer" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonas Posted February 8, 2015 Author Share Posted February 8, 2015 OK, I figured it out. Simonas had the Defaults for Resize About set to "Inner Surface". It needs to be "Outside Main Layer" Joe is a hero of today thanks. but about this last blank layer. Don't you all have this last layer? I have opened Chiefs default template planM and its there as well. No matter what wall I choose or what template its always there. Even when creating new wall it's automatically placed. Can someone of you send me a plan where you don't have this blank layer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe_Carrick Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 Maybe that only occurs in metric plans..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRAWZILLA Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 That line you circled is suppose to be there, its the interior line of the plasterboard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwideziner Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 The last internal layer being blank is what I have most of the time. Maybe Joe has something that there is a difference with metric plans?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonas Posted February 8, 2015 Author Share Posted February 8, 2015 So this blank layer has to be there or not. Lets have this clear. I use mac and metric. What do you use and say if you have this layer or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwideziner Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 I have it on ALL wall types even a couple of CA default ones that I still have but dont use. It appears to be the norm for metric plans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dshall Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 I went thru this about a week ago and Glenn explained it. It works with metric and imperial plans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonas Posted February 8, 2015 Author Share Posted February 8, 2015 I went thru this about a week ago and Glenn explained it. It works with metric and imperial plans. what do you mean it works? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe_Carrick Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 After looking more closely I seem to find it on all Wall Types. Evidently it's the Last line of the Wall Assembly - the Interior Surface. Sometimes it's not obvious in the Wall Type dbx because you might have to scroll down to see it it there are more layers than will fit in the window. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glennw Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 The help file shows the layer named as "Interior Line", but it is not named in the Wall Types dbx. You can rename it manually, but it would be better if it was named "Interior Line" automatically by default. I really don't know why can rename it - wouldn't it always be "Interior Line" ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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