DRAWZILLA Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 Scott I understand what you are saying, one thing about your way is that you can see what the grayscale looks like before you print it, and can easily adjust the color that views the best. I just hit the color on , color off icon to see that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dshall Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 ...I am even more confused now! Don't worry, I am too. I have done it both ways. I have stated why I use the Perry Method, I do not understand why someone does not address the differences between the Perry Method vs the Joey Method. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRAWZILLA Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 I think both ways end up the same, he just prints pdf's in color, then prints to paper in grayscale Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dshall Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 Here is a vid for us nitwits who are trying to figuratedededed this out. http://youtu.be/Ir4ngFnQ6sc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragetoca Posted November 24, 2014 Author Share Posted November 24, 2014 "rague toca" is more like "Rage" as in furious ,,,lol....thanks for the video, makes a lot more sense now Raul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRAWZILLA Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 Thanks Scott I think the b&w loses all the grayscale so you end up with b&w everything. Depending on how dark your color is it will either disappear or be black. I always have that grayscale box checked. The only thing you can't show is when you print the color pdf as grayscale on your printer, it would also be grayscale , So In my view, you and Joey would end up with the same thing when printer on paper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HumbleChief Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 Firs off thanks again for the video. I think I solved this a while back but am learning still. Scott I have a MAC question (sorry for the highjack). Do you not have a zoom wheel on your mouse or must you use the + and - buttons to zoom and pan as your video shows? Always remember Mac mices not having the same options as Windows mices but was just curious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dshall Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 ........Scott I have a MAC question (sorry for the highjack). Do you not have a zoom wheel on your mouse or must you use the + and - buttons to zoom and pan as your video shows? Always remember Mac mices not having the same options as Windows mices but was just curious. First off, I do not use a MAC mouse, I have a logitech, I did not like the MAC mouse for CA. I have a MAC mouse on home IMAC, and I miss the logitech mouse on home IMAC. Yes, I have a zoom wheel on my logitech, and I use it all the time when working with CA, love it. However, I think you are referring to having to use the +,- key to zoom in on PDF's, yes, I have to use the +,- on PDF's, the zoom wheel does not work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HumbleChief Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 First off, I do not use a MAC mouse, I have a logitech, I did not like the MAC mouse for CA. I have a MAC mouse on home IMAC, and I miss the logitech mouse on home IMAC. Yes, I have a zoom wheel on my logitech, and I use it all the time when working with CA, love it. However, I think you are referring to having to use the +,- key to zoom in on PDF's, yes, I have to use the +,- on PDF's, the zoom wheel does not work. Ah yes - same here. Thought you were zooming in with CA. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebdesign Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 Adobe Acrobat has a zoom tool that let's you use your mouse wheel. It's called "continuous zoom'. works great! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dshall Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 Adobe Acrobat has a zoom tool that let's you use your mouse wheel. It's called "continuous zoom'. works great! Super, but is there a hot key associated with it? If it does not have a hot key, then I am lost. I swear, once in a while, the tool bars still screw up, and I am like a fish out of water, I need my hot keys! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRAWZILLA Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 Thanks Jim, I was ignorant. It pays to be here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yusuf-333 Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 ok look at the op's plan color style changed some how equivalent to his. is this what he asked, or am i missing some thing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joey_martin Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 I print my PDF's in color, what the client does with it after I deliver it is up to them. I have color in mt title block, and generally put a color rendering or sketch on the cover page. I want my delivered product with the logo in color and the sketch...again, after that it's up to the end user. I control all of the B/W with layer sets. I have my "working" layer sets that have all the colors everyone is accustomed to, and when I send the view or plan to layout, I make a copy of that set and tag the end of it with LAYOUT and then set the B/W for final printing. Everything is controlled with layersets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragetoca Posted November 25, 2014 Author Share Posted November 25, 2014 Really like your setup and style Joey - if you are available for doing some training let me know, thx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joey_martin Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 I am considering doing some training sessions. I have sent out some "feelers" about meeting space, and I am considering traveling to a couple locations to do training for companies thinking of making the switch. Intriguing that so many find my style appealing. It may be time to look at the business of training others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCI_Design Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 I also use color and line weights to give the plan some definition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRAWZILLA Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 I also use color and line weights to give the plan some definition. I do it similar, using an elevation layerset, its automatic, and no slow cad work needed. Is that what you show? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcrump Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 I tend to use a lot of grey scale. I have created a style that I am very pleased with. There is a complete set of my plans on the Chief website. Joey, How do you get your lower appliances to show up under your base cabinets? Is it manual line work? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joey_martin Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 Michael they are Chief appliances inserted into base cabinets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joey_martin Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 Following the recent thread about "style" and construction documents, my inbox has received a steady flow of requests. I am thinking of offering a 2-day training session on the way I model to get the most out of the materials list, and the way I then turn that model into the construction documents everyone seems to like. I am thinking of 2-days in Indianapolis in mid-late January. Before I make the arrangement, I need some RSVPs, so at this point I am gauging the real interest in what I have to offer. Please send an email to joeymdp@gmail.com with "Indy RSVP" in the subject line. Nothing concrete yet, but if there is real interest, I will make it happen. I also have a few requests from South....Atlanta area...so I am also looking at putting together a training package for Atlanta, or even Birmingham, again, if the interest is really there. If you are in the South and interested, send the same email with "Atlanta RSVP" and I will get back to you with some possible dates. Some are interested in online virtual training, and I'm okay with that as well, though you do lose some of the one on one, but any emails about that possibility can be sent with "Online RSVP". Along with my background in Architecture, I have been teaching on and off for 20 years, so it comes pretty naturally to me. Seems like every time there has been a downturn in building, there has been a teaching opportunity for me. Not only do I currently design and teach high school, but I am also a certified University of Housing Instructor through the NAHB. I am sure I can effectively teach Chief Architect to others, but before I set out on this new adventure, I need to see if the interests truly exists. I also posted this in the OFFERING SERVICES section as well. Thanks everyone, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicinus Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 Personally I hope that your training will be out of business by X7. Well, I don't mean it like that, but using gray scales in the material editor on patterns is in my mind not the way to go and hopefully something that will be changed soon. There should be possibilities to set line weights for patterns, elements in windows, and edge profiles, etc. without resorting to that kind of work arounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcrump Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 Michael they are Chief appliances inserted into base cabinets. Sorry, I meant wall cabinets. I would like to be able to see what is below wall cabs and shelves and still utilize some sort if shading on the uppers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joey_martin Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 All of my line weights and colors are set in the layer sets....no workarounds needed. I rarely edit in layout. Everything you see live as it was sent to layout. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRAWZILLA Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 Ok, very nice Joey. I remember back in the day, you use to cad embellish them , prior to annosets. You can get very nice elevations if you work at it a little. Either way you have turned out some good final views. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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