ClarkeThrasher Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 Because I prefer the Vector view in 3D rather than the Standard which I guess is ray-trace (I don't know, don't like it's artifice), I need a way to make panel material be NOTHING, perfectly clear like air. For example, in this screen porch plan, I want the panels in the door which I have changed from Wood to Screen Material to be Nothing Material so that the door and framework can be read as screen framework and let the mind's eye imagine the screen. This approach works the same for shower enclosures I find. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kMoquin Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 In your materials library you should find "Opening (no material)" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNestor Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 @ClarkeThrasher - not in vector view. Even "open no material" is not "clear" in vector view. Even glass appears as a solid in vector. See attached: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HumbleChief Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 air gap? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNestor Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 On 12/7/2020 at 4:41 PM, HumbleChief said: air gap? Expand @ClarkeThrasher Insulation air gap will still appear solid...in vector view Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dshall Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 CAn't you use a glass material and designate the glass as not obscure? There may be a downside but I can't think of it now. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chopsaw Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 Completely invisible in vector view is a material we have been waiting for and made many requests for. It exists but we need access to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClarkeThrasher Posted December 7, 2020 Author Share Posted December 7, 2020 On 12/7/2020 at 4:35 PM, SNestor said: @ClarkeThrasher - not in vector view. Even "open no material" is not "clear" in vector view. Even glass appears as a solid in vector. See attached: Yep, seems like there should be a way, I have tried making a custom nothing material to no avail. I guess I will draw a custom door. I seem to remember a CA version where you could click on 3D and have an option that would allow seeing through window glass into room spaces. This was probably pre-ray-trace or whatever the Standard view is. Expand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNestor Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 On 12/7/2020 at 4:49 PM, dshall said: CAn't you use a glass material and designate the glass as not obscure? There may be a downside but I can't think of it now. Expand Nope...doesn't work no matter how you tweak the settings. C'mon Chief. Give us something. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClarkeThrasher Posted December 7, 2020 Author Share Posted December 7, 2020 On 12/7/2020 at 4:49 PM, dshall said: CAn't you use a glass material and designate the glass as not obscure? There may be a downside but I can't think of it now. Expand I can't find a designation choice called "not obscure" are you sure your view here is Vector? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chopsaw Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNestor Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 On 12/7/2020 at 5:00 PM, ClarkeThrasher said: I can't find a designation choice called "not obscure" are you sure your view here is Vector? Expand Clarke - there isn't any material in Chief that will not appear as a solid in "vector view". You will have to do what Eric/@solver has suggested above...create a door without panels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNestor Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 On 12/7/2020 at 5:02 PM, Chopsaw said: Expand Nope...still a solid: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dshall Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 On 12/7/2020 at 5:05 PM, SNestor said: Nope...still a solid: Expand uncheck it Steve, do not have it checked. My example is a vector view and I can see through the window. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dshall Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 Steve, after changing the obscure box, you must retake the view. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chopsaw Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 On 12/7/2020 at 5:12 PM, dshall said: Steve, after changing the obscure box, you must retake the view. Expand It is actually live but the material needs to be glass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClarkeThrasher Posted December 7, 2020 Author Share Posted December 7, 2020 On 12/7/2020 at 5:02 PM, Chopsaw said: Expand OMG, Chopsaw, you did it, thanks so much! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNestor Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 On 12/7/2020 at 5:10 PM, dshall said: uncheck it Steve, do not have it checked. My example is a vector view and I can see through the window. Expand It is “unchecked”. And - I did create a new camera view. Weird oops...I unchecked on Standard View...not Vector. Thanks Scott Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dshall Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 On 12/7/2020 at 5:23 PM, ClarkeThrasher said: OMG, Chopsaw, you did it, thanks so much! Expand I am feeling like chopped liver! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chopsaw Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 On 12/7/2020 at 5:28 PM, dshall said: I am feeling like chopped liver! Expand That is the way we need Chief to feel not you Scott. See my revised first posting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNestor Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 @dshall - well, unchecking "opaque window glass" in vector view rendering technique does make door/window glass clear. However, railing panels still appear opaque. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClarkeThrasher Posted December 7, 2020 Author Share Posted December 7, 2020 On 12/7/2020 at 5:28 PM, dshall said: I am feeling like chopped liver! Expand Naw, you couldn't rip but you did cut right to the heart of my problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClarkeThrasher Posted December 7, 2020 Author Share Posted December 7, 2020 On 12/7/2020 at 5:44 PM, SNestor said: @dshall - well, unchecking "opaque window glass" in vector view rendering technique does make door/window glass clear. However, railing panels still appear opaque. Expand I'm sorry to say to you that I gave up on portraying screen, SNestor, maybe X13 or X26 will address the need. Maybe we could organize a protest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DzinEye Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 On 12/7/2020 at 5:28 PM, dshall said: I am feeling like chopped liver! Expand With bacon and onions?? You got an early upvote from me! I think the problem with your post getting due attention was you posed it more as a question than an answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNestor Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 On 12/7/2020 at 5:10 PM, dshall said: uncheck it Steve, do not have it checked. My example is a vector view and I can see through the window. Expand Scott - your post was right on...you are of course "the man". Hope you are doing well is sunny San Diego. Lock Down! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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