Create custom entry door?

[TennVol]

Is there a way to create a custom entry door?  Client wants a DSA Briarcliff style door and I can't really find anything close in the doors available in the library or mfr. downloads.  

[TennVol]

Thanks Eric, I'll check it out.

 

[Rich_Winsor]

That picture doesn't do it any favors.

Are they building a dungeon?   

[Chopsaw]

26 minutes ago, Rich_Winsor said:

That picture doesn't do it any favors.

 

Would better lighting help ?

 

 

There is even a fairly good image if you wanted to just do a "painted" door rather than modeling every detail.

https://dsadoors.com/standard/briarcliff/briarcliff/

[Rich_Winsor]

2 hours ago, Chopsaw said:

There is even a fairly good image if you wanted to just do a "painted" door rather than modeling every detail.

 

Something like this?

 

[Chopsaw]

16 hours ago, Rich_Winsor said:

Something like this?

 

Yup something like that but with the door frame cropped out so people don't fall for that trick. 

 

We worked on the last one together Rich but that was a few years ago I think.

[Rich_Winsor]

6 hours ago, Chopsaw said:

Yup something like that but with the door frame cropped out so people don't fall for that trick. 

We worked on the last one together Rich but that was a few years ago I think.

Geeze, picky picky picky.  I just grabbed the 

wrong (uncropped) image when i was making

the new material for the door. Does this one

float your boat? 

 

 

[TennVol]

I was able to come up with something similar going off Eric's video. Thank you guys so much for the help. Didn't know about the painted door trick I'm going to have to keep that in mind. Thanks again.

[joey_martin]

Painted door trick wont help with con docs...still gonna need to make that door or draw a 2D version in CAD.

[DzinEye]

Or use Photoshop / Gimp 

[Alaskan_Son]

4 hours ago, joey_martin said:

Painted door trick wont help with con docs...still gonna need to make that door or draw a 2D version in CAD.

Totally concur.  I go to pretty great lengths to model almost everything so that the model accurately communicates the important details, not only for views that show Textures but also (and more importantly many times)...those that don’t (Vector Views, Technical Illustrations, Line Drawings, etc.).   Plus, even in Standard Views, PBRs, and Ray Traces, that painted image technique also has the tendency to throw a scene off with the flawed shadows, lack of glass transparency, lack of proper 3D depth (iron cage in the example above), etc.  

 

P.S.  Nice work though @Rich_Winsor.  It’s not my favorite METHOD, but you used the method well.

[Rich_Winsor]

Well. for the record I was just taking the ball

Chopsaw threw out there and running with it.

For anyone interested the process involved

opening the image from Briarcliff in PSP and

cropping out the door frame. I also took the

liberty to convert the door glass in the image

to a transparent background. Then in Chief I

converted the PSP image into a material and

applied it to a plain slab door. I wasn't sure if

it would work, but applying the material to the

door cut a transparent hole in the slab for the

glass window. The transparent window glass

and an actual 3D handle on the door go a long

way to convincing the mind that the door isn't 

just a flat image.

 

And thanks for the kind words Michael. 

.

[DzinEye]

To my mind there's no way it would be worth modeling a very detailed one-off door like that unless the clients themselves specifically selected that door and were interested in paying me to model it correctly (which has happened exactly once)...or I knew I'd be using it again and again and again...or I doubled my fees.    

[Chrisb222]

6 hours ago, Rich_Winsor said:

Well. for the record I was just taking the ball

Chopsaw threw out there and running with it.

For anyone interested the process involved

opening the image from Briarcliff in PSP and

cropping out the door frame. I also took the

liberty to convert the door glass in the image

to a transparent background. Then in Chief I

converted the PSP image into a material and

applied it to a plain slab door. I wasn't sure if

it would work, but applying the material to the

door cut a transparent hole in the slab for the

glass window. The transparent window glass

and an actual 3D handle on the door go a long

way to convincing the mind that the door isn't 

just a flat image.

 

And thanks for the kind words Michael. 

.

 

 

Looks better than many textures provided by Chief... grass, shingles etc.

 

21 minutes ago, DzinEye said:

To my mind there's no way it would be worth modeling a very detailed one-off door like that unless the clients themselves specifically selected that door and were interested in paying me to model it correctly (which has happened exactly once)...or I knew I'd be using it again and again and again...or I doubled my fees.    

 

+1

 

For elevations the 2-D would be pretty easy to draw, easier I would think than modeling an actual door symbol.

 

But to each their own. I spend an inordinate amount of time making a plan set cover that includes a ray trace of the exterior of the house with plants, tree shadows, and a nice graphic layout of the page with the homeowner's name in a pretty font.

 

We all gots priorities.