lbuttery Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 I've tried to use this tool for the room that is dimensioned but no joy I use the wizard and nothing happens ??? is it possible to use CTW on this plan ??? if so, with what settings ??? I know it can be traced but was hoping CTW would work I haven't tried CTW since Ver 9.5 as it never seemed to work then either Lew NACC_SUITE 118_141002_2145_LBX6.zip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJSpud Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 Nope ... draw your walls over this stuff as needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lbuttery Posted October 3, 2014 Author Share Posted October 3, 2014 Curt: just curious - is that opinion or did you try it ? no need to try if you didn't for tracing my next step is to determine how to create a proper wall type Lew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawdzira Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 I don't think that CA could be expected to create walls from cad that has such a varied wall thickness represented. I think you are looking for a button called "Draftsman for Hire". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJSpud Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 Yes ... I tried it. What I did .... Export your .plan as a dwg ... save to desktop ... open a new plan .... import the dwg into your new plan .... turn off CAD default ... what I had left was one little chunk of wall Chief extracted from all that stuff in your plan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lbuttery Posted October 3, 2014 Author Share Posted October 3, 2014 Export your .plan as a dwg ... save to desktop ... open a new plan .... import the dwg into your new plan Curt: why these steps ??? why not use the plan as it was imported originally ??? Lew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRAWZILLA Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 I think you have to have a wall in your Wall DBX that matches the thickness of the walls you are trying to create. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lbuttery Posted October 3, 2014 Author Share Posted October 3, 2014 I don't think that CA could be expected to create walls from cad that has such a varied wall thickness represented. Alan: since I have never had any success with CTW I suspect this tool is "worthless" I think you are looking for a button called "Draftsman for Hire" no, I was hoping a Chief feature would work as intended I had already anticipated that tracing would probably be needed but wanted to check if any others more skilled than I could get the tool to work Lew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lbuttery Posted October 3, 2014 Author Share Posted October 3, 2014 I think you have to have a wall in your Wall DBX that matches the thickness of the walls you are trying to create Perry: I already tried an 18" and a 20" wall but no joy with CTW tool Lew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJSpud Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 I think the main problem is with what you are working from to begin with. As you and many others have stated over the years, Chief is not a perfect "DO-IT-All" program and expecting it to create walls from that "MESS" is stretching it IMO. Give Chief something decent to work with in the beginning and I think it performs quite well. Nuff said. Draw over that mess and don't worry about the small stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lbuttery Posted October 3, 2014 Author Share Posted October 3, 2014 Curt: thank not sure why the plan Is a mess ? the current building manager "inherited" the plan it is a 1921 HS converted to a arts and cultural center no idea who drew the plan I have iittle experience with AutoCAD plans so wasn't sure if it was the plan or CTW time to do a trace Lew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJSpud Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 Lew: I have a good friend who is our local Logix ICF dealer. You can't believe some of the "chicken scratching" he gets that people (including contractors) give him to do estimates from. Some he's shown me would almost make your CS look pretty good. I have been pretty fortunate with many of my customers in that they know how to put together a decent sketch of what they want. Granted, the walls are usually just lines so most of the sketches end up growing in size once I create the model ... but I always tell them ahead of time that that might happen depending on the room sizes they are using. Below is a drawing I received from a customer that was done with Windows Word I believe. He did a pretty incredible job in my opinion. I just imported that drawing into a new plan, resized it properly and then drew the walls over the top of his drawing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lbuttery Posted October 3, 2014 Author Share Posted October 3, 2014 Curt: I have traced many plans in the past some my partner had to do I've asked him to do the tracing for this one as he's better at it than I am I get frustrated too quickly if there are oddities Lew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJSpud Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 Lew: I don't understand how you can get frustrated drawing walls over someone's conceptual plan, regardless of how good or how precise the drawing you get is. You just do it. It's part of the process ... ideas to reality. Sometimes it takes a lot of back and forth to get there, but eventually that happens or the project is scrapped for some reason. At least the party who did the drawing has given you a starting point ... an idea of what they want. You don't have to start from scratch. That's what makes Chief so great as an object based program ... you can usually get to a decent model fairly quickly and can present your customer with some 3D to WOW them and your on your way. Don't get me wrong ... I realize there can be things with a sketch or drawing that we know just won't work ... but you work through that by giving your customer good advice based upon your knowledge and experience. Not all the avenues to a final plan are on paved roads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lbuttery Posted October 3, 2014 Author Share Posted October 3, 2014 Curt: I am the client for this project I have leased that space to start a museum there are 3 rooms inside that space which the plan doesn't show I have to go there soon and get the dims yeah, I know how to create a wall type about that thick and trace over it etc with my health issues I have little patience for "frustrations" with a plan that has "issues" my partner/friend is better at dealing with them could I do it - yes I choose not to .... I probably shouldn't be doing the museum but my preservation friends will help and I will hire the rest out I will only be able to be there two maybe three days a week and by appt. other times will depend on volunteers Lew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich_Winsor Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 When I purchased my spread here the main house was in the middle of a major (non-permitted) remodel. I asked the owner (a sweet old lady) if there were some plans of the project so I could see what she had envisioned for the project. She assured me she had some plans and that she would dig them up for me. Well, here's the plan. Floor Plan Drawing.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lbuttery Posted October 3, 2014 Author Share Posted October 3, 2014 Rich: it is a start Lew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dshall Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 When I purchased my spread here the main house was in the middle of a major (non-permitted) remodel. I asked the owner (a sweet old lady) if there were some plans of the project so I could see what she had envisioned for the project. She assured me she had some plans and that she would dig them up for me. Well, here's the plan. Rich, for a very large fee, I can smooth out some of the rough edges. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJSpud Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 I will do it for slightly less! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRAWZILLA Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 I won't do it at all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaskan_Son Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 Rich, for a very large fee, I can smooth out some of the rough edges. This price seems a little low to me for a such a huge amount of work. For an extremely large consultation fee and a moderately high markup I think I could find an exorbitantly high priced architect to get them finished up to the point you could hire Scott at a relatively low rate to clean the plans up and add a few crappy ray traces to sweeten the deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich_Winsor Posted October 4, 2014 Share Posted October 4, 2014 Rich, for a very large fee, I can smooth out some of the rough edges. I will do it for slightly less! I won't do it at all This price seems a little low to me for a such a huge amount of work. For an extremely large consultation fee and a moderately high markup I think I could find an exorbitantly high priced architect to get them finished up to the point you could hire Scott at a relatively low rate to clean the plans up and add a few crappy ray traces to sweeten the deal. Wow! Now I see what everybody is talking about when they point out how helpful everyone on this forum is. And Perry, thanks for your generous offer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRAWZILLA Posted October 4, 2014 Share Posted October 4, 2014 And Perry, thanks for your generous offer. I hope your joking, everyone else was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich_Winsor Posted October 4, 2014 Share Posted October 4, 2014 I hope your joking, everyone else was. Sure I'm joking. Isn't that what the "wink" and "grin" are all about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaskan_Son Posted October 4, 2014 Share Posted October 4, 2014 Sure I'm joking. Isn't that what the "wink" and "grin" are all about? You could just be creepy : ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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