ebdesign Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 Is there a way to get a newly built flr to have the cl'g hgt I want instead of what I get- 97 1/8"- & then have to change it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRAWZILLA Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 Yes, use a template plan already set up for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebdesign Posted September 29, 2014 Author Share Posted September 29, 2014 That's not what I asked Perry. But, thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe_Carrick Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 Is there a way to get a newly built flr to have the cl'g hgt I want instead of what I get- 97 1/8"- & then have to change it?Change it in the Defaults. The key is having a Default Plan that has - as many of us do - multiple floors already defined. For each Floor, you can have different settings (Structure Tab).But if it's already built - NO, of course not! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRAWZILLA Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 What you asked is what I told you will work. Are you saying you want some automatic thing?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe_Carrick Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 Also note that any new floor will take on the defaults of the floor directly below. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebdesign Posted September 29, 2014 Author Share Posted September 29, 2014 Read a little closer guys. A "NEWLY BUILT FLOOR" I don't add floors to my plans until I need them. As do a lot of other users. & no, Joe, newly built floors do not pick up the defaults of the flr below. Not here anyway. w/ the version of Chief I have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dshall Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 A bit grumpy there Jim. So do you define ceiling height before or after floor is created? Who cares. Same number of clicks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe_Carrick Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 Jim, I'm sorry I misspoke. IAE, when you build a new floor - Chief gives you the opportunity right then to specify what heights you want.If you start off with a project that you know is going to have 3 floors - it's real easy to just "Build New Floor" twice. Scott and I both have 4 floors in our default plan - which is not really a problem because if you don't put any walls on a floor then it's just a place holder. There are advantages to having "Blank Floors" such as the fact that you can build a 'Stair" from the 2nd Floor to the 3rd Floor even if you haven't already defined the walls on any floors. Basically Floors in Chief simply define the vertical space. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebdesign Posted September 29, 2014 Author Share Posted September 29, 2014 Sorry if I sound grumpy. It's Monday after all. I thought my question was pretty plain. I do not build floors until I need them. I understand why some of you do. I don't & neither do a lot of other users. So can we move past that? All I was asking was a way to preset the cl'g hgt value so that when a new flr is built, I don't have to change anything. IOW, no clicks at all. I don't think there is, but I thought someone might know of a way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dshall Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 No problem, I do not think there is a way to do what you want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebdesign Posted September 29, 2014 Author Share Posted September 29, 2014 Hey Joe, I can put stairs in that go to a floor that doesn't even exist.............yet. I can draw stairs in the basement that actually start at the 2flr & go up.......or down I can copy/paste stairs from one flr to another & not have them change vertically at all. Just jerkin' your chain Joe. Trying to snap out of the Monday funk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommy1 Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 Jim, I don't think you can change the embedded (not sure if embedded is the right word) ceiling heights of the 2nd. floor on up unless you build blank floors as mentioned. I don't know why Chief changed their default 1st. floor to a 9' ceiling? It didn't used to be that way in earlier versions (like X2 and earlier). I have already changed it to an 8' 1st. floor ceiling in my profile plan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
builtright3 Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 Jim, I glad to find out that you cant change the CA 97 1/8 because I spent hours one day trying to do that myself. I thought I was missing something simple and I was going nuts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buzzsaw204 Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 Yes, use a template plan already set up for that. even if you have template at the Height you want. but thats only for 1st floor. when you add 2nd floor, it's always 97 1 1/8" again. i've trying to figured this our too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dshall Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 even if you have template at the Height you want. but thats only for 1st floor. when you add 2nd floor, it's always 97 1 1/8" again. i've trying to figured this our too. Have a template plan with four floors with each floor height defined as you like. I really do not know what the big deal about this is. It seems from project to project I either have 97" first floor walls or 109" first floor walls or 101" hi first floor walls and then the second floor walls are either 97" or 109". I know that for every project I will need to adjust the ceiling heights. It takes me about 7.23 seconds to set the ceiling heights , (I just timed it). I just spent more time explaining this than it would take me to adjust the ceiling heights of the next 20 homes I do. I am such a nitwit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe_Carrick Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 Ideally we would have a set of Defaults for each Floor (Level) and within that a set of Defaults for each Room Type (including user defined Room Types). This is something that I requested before in the Suggestions Forum. https://chieftalk.chiefarchitect.com/index.php?/topic/1278-defaults-per-floor-and-room-type/ But currently in X6 we don't have that. So if you want different Defaults for different Floors (Levels) then you need to set it up in your Default Plan by having as many Floors as you might need - already defined with the Default Heights that you want. I don't know how many times this needs to be said in order for it to be understood: A Floor isn't really a part of the Model if there's nothing on that Level. It's just a holding space for the vertical location. By having the Levels predefined with default heights - you get what you want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRAWZILLA Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 I not only use a template plan for ceiling heights on several floors but also many other things within Chief like line weights on many different layersets and reference sets. It saves me at least 1 hour per plan I do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebdesign Posted September 30, 2014 Author Share Posted September 30, 2014 A lot of users don't want to add flrs until they're needed. When I need to go to the attic flr, I don't want to scroll thru 3 blank flrs to get there. All we're asking for is the ability to assign a default cl'g hgt of our choosing before a new flr is built w/out the workaround of extra flrs in our template that very likely will not be needed. We understand that it only takes a few seconds to change it, but that is not the point.How many times does that need to be said, Joe?"A Floor isn't really a part of the Model if there's nothing on that Level. It's just a holding space for the vertical location. By having the Levels predefined with default heights - you get what you want."That's bologna! Chief calls 'em "floors", not "levels". I'm going w/ that. CAD Details are made to store stuff. Copy/Paste in Place (Control/Alt/V) between the plan & a CAD Detail works just as well (no, make that "better") as blank flrs w/out the trickery.Even if the new flr took on the cl'g hgt of the floor below (like it used to work), that would be better than 97 1/8". (Does anybody use that 1/8" anymore?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRAWZILLA Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 A lot of users don't want to add flrs until they're needed. When I need to go to the attic flr, I don't want to scroll thru 3 blank flrs to get there That doesn't happen, the attic is the top floor with nothing on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebdesign Posted September 30, 2014 Author Share Posted September 30, 2014 Perry, I can think of a few different ways to get to the attic flr directly w/out scrolling thru all the existing flrs, I could use the Project Browser or the "Change Floor Reference" dbx or having that floor already open in another tab, etc. But that's not usually how I move between floors. How do you normally move between floors? And then there's........... I need to go the the 2nd flr. But wait! the 2nd floor (or "level") is not really the 2nd flr. The 2nd flr is actually on the 3rd level.......or however you have it set up. No thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dshall Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 Perry, I can think of a few different ways to get to the attic flr directly w/out scrolling thru all the existing flrs, I could use the Project Browser or the "Change Floor Reference" dbx or having that floor already open in another tab, etc. But that's not usually how I move between floors. How do you normally move between floors? And then there's........... I need to go the the 2nd flr. But wait! the 2nd floor (or "level") is not really the 2nd flr. The 2nd flr is actually on the 3rd level.......or however you have it set up. No thanks! I have to tell you Jim, if you are having this much trouble, you might want to reconsider your methods. Project browser to get to a level? No thanks, I use the arrow keys, I am there before I have to think about it. 2nd floor actually 3rd floor? I am not sure what you are talking about. We are not in Europe where the 1st floor is actually above the ground floor and the basement is below the ground floor. And the basement is actually 2 floors below the first floor. Yeah Jim, after rereading your post, I can tell you are frustrated. I am not sure if you are the only one, but I can tell you I have no problem moving from floor to floor with arrow keys. I have a sneaky feeling P. has no problems moving between floors. As I said, you might want to reconsider your methods. But, because you want it....... HEY CA, please allow us to somehow predetermine the ceiling heights of floors we will add in the future without having to determine after the fact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raltd9245 Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 Sorry if I sound grumpy. It's Monday after all. I thought my question was pretty plain. I do not build floors until I need them. I understand why some of you do. I don't & neither do a lot of other users. So can we move past that? All I was asking was a way to preset the cl'g hgt value so that when a new flr is built, I don't have to change anything. IOW, no clicks at all. I don't think there is, but I thought someone might know of a way. It is nor you these guys like to pick on people. Are you old? DSH love to pick on old people, he picks on me all the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dshall Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 ..... he picks on me all the time. That's because you are probably the only guy around here that is grumpier than me........ well....... Jim is starting to give us a run for our money. Jim, still trying to work out this Michigan golf trip, I have changed my mind so many times on the best way to deal with this, would like to play at Traverse City Golf Resort, but I looked on Yelp, and there are a lot of bad reviews in regards to the resort... I am so confused. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRAWZILLA Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 I'm old and he picks on me too. Maybe your on to something. I also pick back to defend my wife's honor ( have to use some excuse). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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