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Can The Default Templates Folder Be Re-Directed?

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No, not that I know of.  You don't have to use the Templates tool though.  New Plan From Template, New Layout From Template, and Save As Template are basically the exact same tool as Open Plan, Open Layout, and Save As except that they take you to the Templates folder you speak of and they also open the files as Untitled.  You can always just navigate to a different folder or even put a shortcut to a different folder right there in your Templates folder. 

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Just realized you might have been asking about resetting the folder to its default status and not changing it's path.  To reset the folder, simply delete it and then open Chief.

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58 minutes ago, HumbleChief said:

...?

 

More explaining maybe needed Larry? .....

 

If you want the Default ones back .....YES...... Chief Stores them in the Programs folder too.....if you delete ( or rename) the Templates Folder in the DATA folder, on next start Chief will replace the Folder in DATA>Templates from Programs>Templates...

 

If you mean you corrupted your own Templates then no....hopefully you have a backup on an external USB or something...

 

M.

 

 

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If I open Chief and select New Plan, it opens to my default Plan Template. If I select Templates>Save As Template I'm taken to Chief's default template folder under Documents>Chief Architect Premier X11 Data>Templates. I then need to navigate out of there to my custom Templates folder.

 

I would like to set up my Template Folder as the default so I am taken there directly after choosing Templates>Save As Template. Can it be done?

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3 minutes ago, Kbird1 said:

 

More explaining maybe needed Larry? .....

 

If you want the Default ones back .....YES...... Chief Stores them in the Programs folder too.....if you delete ( or rename) the Templates Folder in the DATA folder, on next start Chief will replace the Folder in DATA>Templates from Programs>Templates...

 

If you mean you corrupted your own Templates then no....hopefully you have a backup on an external USB or something...

 

M.

 

 

See explanation above. Just want to set a custom Templates location as the default instead of Chief's default Documents>Chief Architect Premier X11 Data>Templates.

 

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1 minute ago, HumbleChief said:

If I open Chief and select New Plan, it opens to my default Plan Template. If I select Templates>Save As Template I'm taken to Chief's default template folder under Documents>Chief Architect Premier X11 Data>Templates. I then need to navigate out of there to my custom Templates folder.

 

I would like to set up my Template Folder as the default so I am taken there directly after choosing Templates>Save As Template. Can it be done?

 

Put your Template Folder inside Chief's Template Folder ...at least that is what I do....

 

M.

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Just now, Kbird1 said:

 

Put your Template Folder inside Chief's Template Folder ...at least that is what I do....

 

M.

Good idea, just want to make sure it remains part of my DropBox folder and locations, not sure that location can be part of DB. 

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Just now, HumbleChief said:

Anyway it looks like the answer is no?

 

not in Chief itself AFAIK

 

If My Documents is on Dropbox , then your DATA Folder is too.....

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Larry,

You could come at this from the other way.

Why not use Chiefs default templates folder as your main custom templates storage folder.

Move all of Chiefs standard template plans to another folder that you can navigate to when and if needed.

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1 hour ago, glennw said:

Larry,

You could come at this from the other way.

Why not use Chiefs default templates folder as your main custom templates storage folder.

Move all of Chiefs standard template plans to another folder that you can navigate to when and if needed.

Still a good idea but I don't think I can get DropBox to point at the My Documents/Chief folder? I should explore that....

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OK, please do not try this at home. Documents is computer specific and can be re-located to DropBox but Chief will still not see it because Chief defaults to where it defaults - period - and cannot/will not see any other location.

 

Now if you're stupid enough to redirect your entire DropBox folder to my docs, then run out of disk space as you try and reverse the operation, you're pretty much stuck with a useless new Doc folder which may even cause some terminal problems if a user forgets that that folder contains their DropBox files.

 

Chief still defaults to a Doc folder even though it's no longer visible in the explorer tree.

 

Experiment over. Will click a couple more times as needed.

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10 hours ago, HumbleChief said:

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Yes it can.

 

You need to create a link (Junction) that tells Windows that one folder is really located, and possibly named differently, somewhere else.

 

I created the directory D:\T-Test and copied the contents of the Templates folder to it.

 

I renamed the Templates folder creating a backup.

 

I then used the mklink command to create a link (junction) from Templates to D:\T-Test

 

Now Chief accesses the Templates folder that's really a junction that points to D:\T-Test, and sees all the files as expected.

 

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To use the MKLink tool, you have to open a command prompt in administrator mode.

 

Here's the easiest way to do so:

 

    Click the Start button.


    Type CMD in the Start Search box.


    Press and hold down [Ctrl]+[Shift]+[Enter].


A UAC dialog box will appear, and you'll have to respond accordingly.

 

Change the directory to Templates

 

In my case I used the command

 

      cd "D:\Users\e\Documents\Chief Architect Premier X11 Data"

 

I then used the mklink command

 

      mklink /j Templates D:\T-Test

 

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The new directory can be anywhere and named anything.

You can delete the Templates link (junction) you created, rename the backup templates folder to Templates and you are back to the OOB setup.

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This is how people get files into their Dropbox folder all the time.

 

It's not difficult and after you have done it once it's easy to understand.

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3 hours ago, HumbleChief said:

OK, please do not try this at home. Documents is computer specific and can be re-located to DropBox but Chief will still not see it because Chief defaults to where it defaults - period - and cannot/will not see any other location.

 

Not quite sure what you mean here Larry as the Data Folder can be put anywhere you want via Prefs.>General>Folders , you just need to point it where ever you want it...via the Browse Button.

 

3 hours ago, HumbleChief said:

 

Now if you're stupid enough to redirect your entire DropBox folder to my docs, then run out of disk space as you try and reverse the operation, you're pretty much stuck with a useless new Doc folder which may even cause some terminal problems if a user forgets that that folder contains their DropBox files.

 

Chief still defaults to a Doc folder even though it's no longer visible in the explorer tree.

 

Personally I backup My Chief Data Folder to a separate HDD with Syncback Free each night and that Folder is backed up/sync'd to Dropbox, I do it this way as a don't like that Dropbox uses the actual Data Folder , as it's Folder , unlike Google Drive which uses a Copy ( I believe )

 

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3 hours ago, HumbleChief said:

 

Experiment over. Will click a couple more times as needed.

 

There is a KB article on using Cloud Services too , not sure how useful it is though?

 

M.

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8 hours ago, HumbleChief said:

Thanks Eric, way above my pay grade but appreciate the help as always...

 

If you prefer a GUI to do the same, I would recommend this shell extension http://schinagl.priv.at/nt/hardlinkshellext/linkshellextension.html and there are some others that do the same.  

 

It's then just right click on the source folder and select 'Pick Link Source' and then on the target folder right click and "Drop as junction" or symbolic link (there is a difference but for this purpose the result is similar although the latter will prompt for elevation)

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The problem still remains. Folder can be re-located, redirected, re- a bunch of stuff but Chief still points to the same default location for its templates. I have more than one computer and each one needs its own redirection and each one needs to synch to the same folder and Chief needs to point to it for its templates. This may be possible (and even down right easy for some) but it's way too complex for me and I already completely messed up my Docs folder on my laptop. It's a couple clicks to get to my Templates Folder that is shared on DropBox and was just hoping Chief had a way to select which folder for my Templates like it does with so many other defaults. It's not a real huge issue, was just hoping to save a click or two...

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Larry,

 

I just copied the Chief Data folder to my Dropbox location.  Then I set that location in Preferences.

Then whenever I open a template that's where Chief looks for it.

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1 minute ago, Joe_Carrick said:

Larry,

 

I just copied the Chief Data folder to my Dropbox location.  Then I set that location in Preferences.

Then whenever I open a template that's where Chief looks for it.

I don't think there's a problem locating Templates that currently exist, nor a problem copying the data folder. Its the simple Save As Template that seems to point only to Chief's Default Folder. I would like to change folder that but there's no method that I can find within Chief to do so - easily...

 

 

template folder 1.png

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Resetting the Data Folder Location Gets me this warning. Should probably make some backups of some kind...

template folder 2.png

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But I can't get to my Data as the directory is no longer visible in Explorer. I think I'll try it on my Main Computer and maybe even copy data back to my Laptop. Is this a bad plan?

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Larry,

 

It only works if you change the "My Data Folder".

There's currently no way to change just the "Templates" Folder.

 

Yes, you will need to copy the old data folder to the new location before change the Preference.  The old data folder will still exist but it will not be accessed.  Note that making this change will effect all the subfolders as well and they will be synced across all your systems via Dropbox.

 

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2 minutes ago, Joe_Carrick said:

Larry,

 

It only works if you change the "My Data Folder".

There's currently no way to change just the "Templates" Folder.

 

Yes, you will need to copy the old data folder to the new location first.

Ah yes, I think it will be that simple (and was probably already suggested but my thick skull and all) . Need to ensure toolbars etc. gets copied?

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