BlackWidow Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 I would like to show the existing footprint of a house on one layout page and then the additional footprint on another layout page but everytime I change it then it will change it in the layout. Is there any way of doing this so that I can have two different layout views? Thanks. -Greg T. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommy1 Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 One way is to use an existing plan and a proposed plan. Have both plans linked to the layout. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joey_martin Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 Layer Sets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommy1 Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 If you're doing a remodel, I personally don't advocate having the existing plan and proposed plan in one plan file. I'm fairly certain that some people will though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lbuttery Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 Joey: how can layersets do it ??? it would be nice if we had total control of the layers so that multiple walls could occupy the same space but currently chief doesn't allow for that Lew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joey_martin Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 When I do remodels....and that's a BIG WHEN since I hate them like poison.....I turn the existing plan footprint into a CAD block and use it as an overlay. Why anyone in their right mind would try to put multiple walls in the same location anyway is beyond me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicknz Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 Same as Joey - Always start with the existing and change it to a CAD block - I've tried other ways but this gives me the best control. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommy1 Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 I too use this cad method too sometimes. The reason I mentioned using two plans is because in our existing plan (Existing/demo Plan) we hatch all wall that are to be demoed, and use a lot of text explaining what is going on for the demo. In the new plan, I hatch all existing walls. In a complicated plan, which is often the case, I do an existing cad overlay in a separate view (layer set) in the layout as you all mention. A lot of times I do it for the Engineers as a quick reference. If I do a cad overlay, I only show the walls, door and windows in the overlay....generally dashed and light grey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dshall Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 If you're doing a remodel, I personally don't advocate having the existing plan and proposed plan in one plan file. I'm fairly certain that some people will though. I absolutely agree with Tommy. There, you have two nitwits saying the same thing, do what Tommy says until some smart guy comes along and says something different...... AND PROVES HIS METHOD IS BETTER. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dshall Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 When I do remodels....and that's a BIG WHEN since I hate them like poison...........Why anyone in their right mind would try to put multiple walls in the same location anyway is beyond me. I absolutely agree with Joey, however I love remodels, do them all the time, there are many ways to do what Joey is essentiallly saying, I think I have a better method and done videos on it..... bottom line, do not combine new with existing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dshall Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 Joey: how can layersets do it ??? it would be nice if we had total control of the layers so that multiple walls could occupy the same space but currently chief doesn't allow for that Lew Come on Lew, don't complicate things, listen to Tommy, heed what Joey is saying and watch one of the multitude of videos I have done on the subject....... just don't ask me to find the vids, they are out there somewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lbuttery Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 Scott: I usually do what Tommy does I sometimes use a Cad Block like Joey said "later" however, Joey originally said "layersets" and that wasn't clear I suspected he meant cad blocks because I know he is experienced but someone new reading this thread might get confused and try to use multiple walls in the same location and then try to control display with layers/layersets personally, I will continue to advocate for being all to do "everything" in one plan we can't do it now - but it would be nice to be able to control "all" via layers Lew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRAWZILLA Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 A clean model is a happy model, existing walls left in the plan, just muck it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lbuttery Posted May 28, 2014 Share Posted May 28, 2014 A clean model is a happy model, existing walls left in the plan, just muck it up. Yep, unfortunately true, but true.... Lew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackWidow Posted May 28, 2014 Author Share Posted May 28, 2014 Thank you very much folks. I appreciate all of the replays. Greg Tuten Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glennw Posted May 28, 2014 Share Posted May 28, 2014 A clean model is a happy model, existing walls left in the plan, just muck it up. Perry, I am 100% with you. Once a wall is demolished it is no longer a wall - so why the **** do users want to represent a demolished wall with a wall? I don't get it - use cad - either by using View to Cad or just draw cad lines directly in the plan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lbuttery Posted May 28, 2014 Share Posted May 28, 2014 Glenn because today it IS A WALL tomorrow it won't be - but may be replaced by another WALL so when reviewing a plan are you looking at today or tomorrow or both ??? I think "both" for now it is "semantics" as we have no choice but to use two plans or a cad block then add multiple alternatives for "tomorrow" and it can be a real PITA to have to make a change to all the plans attempting to keep them all in sync can lead to error having total control of layers so that we can show wall A or B or C or D .... would be very nice however, I suspect it will be a long time coming - probably never but I will keep asking Lew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommy1 Posted May 28, 2014 Share Posted May 28, 2014 Perry, Once a wall is demolished it is no longer a wall - so why the **** do users want to represent a demolished wall with a wall? Glenn, I have had several people call me over the years wanting to know why when they change a wall type to a demo wall and turn it off, and use different layer sets, they start having problems after a while. They say that Chief has videos and tutorials for doing it this way. WELL, THAT'S TRUE! THEY DO! I simply tell them that doing this is not a method that I agree with and will almost guarantee problems with a sophisticated plan with multiple floors and even worse if you have elevated floors on a single floor. Back in X1 when they first came out with the demolition wall types and layer sets, this was an accepted method but not for Louis and me because it didn't take us long to find problems. I just looked up threads from powerful users telling you to do this back when X1 was out. Today, you can still see the videos and the wall types are still there in the drop down menu. Every time I've asked someone why they're using this method for doing existing and proposed plans, they say because they saw it in the training videos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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