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By now I think you get that is not available. My last shot at this. Screen shots and plan attached for clarity. The only downside is that after changing the layer set You need to click on the schedule to get the macro to refresh. Someone may know another way to force it to refresh. Gas schedule.zip

Not using the automatic label AFAIK. You can however set up Rich Text boxes saved to your library so you can just drag and drop. Sample attached. Room RT sample.calibz

That you did not bother to follow the link to the ANSWER that Eric posted? Works for what it sounds like you want.

I get that. Turning off a layer of an object that is in a block does not turn it off. I just was looking at the options- my favorite is pretty much what Joe suggested- adding a separate text box on the same layer as the object. If the choice is "I can be right" (program should do this so complain) or "I can get what I want" (work around) I'll get what I want...somehow.

I don't know of a symbol type that can't report to a schedule. Here is a solid converted to a geometric shape with schedule.

Search then draw to match. turning diagram

Had a quick play with one of Joe's macros. It takes some time to update the macro and I think the macro folks have a trick for that?? Screen shots of a schedule (I left border on) that changes with changed layer sets.

I'd have a talk with @Joe_Carrick who's written some macros based on layer sets to alter labels. There are a few other people around that do custom macros. Would need something that set "include_in_schedule" to false for the object based on the layer set (I don't know how to do off hand, I tried but limited ability here.) Then use a custom schedule to make the list, only including labels and no borders for your list. Instead of turning off a layer the client needs to change the layer set to one with that layer off. (better practice IMO) A second simpler method would be to add the text for option as a separate text box at the end of your list and set it on the same layer as the object. Turn off the object the text goes away. Not elegant but...

There are fewer cabinet folks on this forum than once were. There may be more over at Facebook where I don't go. The short answer: 2020 is for you IF you are interested in high turnover/volume, low to mid range cabinet brands, don’t deal with much remodel of the space, consider a box store your competitor, don’t really want to invest much time in learning or setting up. Chief is for you IF you handle upper middle to better brands (many don’t have 2020 catalogs), want to provide complete, better drawings (to get more referrals from allied pros), willing to invest time learning and setting up, want to outshine the competition, deal with the space/construction regularly, ever push the limit. I used 2020 from version 5.1 to 9.1; exclusively for 9 yrs though supplemented it CAD, PDF, Envisioneer, hand drafting and spreadsheet to fix the dismal pricing. Once I got Chief is still used 2020 in a limited fashion to get item lists for a few years occasionally. My opinion is a bit harsh (and I drank CAs kool-aid:) I can't speak to the current version of 2020 though I did keep track of it until a few years ago. Back when I dropped it: support was dismal, stability bad, cabinet pricing unreliably inaccurate, responsiveness to user requested improvements was almost non existent. AFAIK all this was the same as little as 5 yrs ago based on friends forced to use it. All of those are far superior with Chief, with the exception of pricing. What CA does NOT have. In CA the Mfg do do NOT have any cabinets in them which also means they will not OOB match Mfg nomenclature. You set up in cabinets in your user library and/or make Style Palettes for them. Setting up nomenclature often needs to be specific to a Mfg and can get complicated if you want to automate it but there are ways. CA does not do any pricing. For me this has been a non issue. For years I was already exporting item lists from 2020 to spreadsheet template order forms I made. In Chief I use cabinet schedules to copy and "paste special" into a spreadsheet to do the same thing. In each case I was looking up pricing in a PDF price list. The only difference is that with Chief I had to enter it all (copy/paste). For some brands it eventually became possible to use the spreadsheet to copy line items into an online ordering system quickly as long as the nomenclature is set up properly. There is an advantage to this system though. You become more familiar with costs and then are better able to adjust a job to meet a budget. You can also more quickly compare total cost of variations once you figure out a system to do that with a couple of clicks. Things that CA has A robust ability to import symbols, textures, create tile, use any countertop material you can find an image for, any appliance you can find a 3D file of. Adjust textures, create door styles. I have not found anything I could not draw in Chief that can’t be built. There are ways to check clearances of hood inserts into custom hood enclosures. Check clearnaces to part of a building, make sure you ductwork can actually be vented. Check clearance for drain pipes when changing locations of fixutres. Far superior drawings and dimensioning abilities. Benefit below. NOTE- the national average closing rate for GCS (Glorified Cabinet Salesman/aka KD) is 33%. I had a closing rate over 80%. This was thanks to cultivating a stable of allied professionals for referrals where the closing rate ranked in the 90s. Supplying better drawings than the other 30 sources for cabinets within ½ hr drive of me had the best ones come back over and over. A personal note: I was laid off by a Wood Mode Cabinet dealer at the end of 09 during a recession. Got a 2020 license to freelance then coupled it with Envisioneer. Then I picked up an upper middle cabinet line. A year later I got CA. At a time when the many local dealers were opting to sell Chinese cabinets or knock downs I became a QCCI dealer. I immediately ended up with a whole house reno job from a designer I'd worked with; 6 rooms of highly detailed cabinets and two closets all done in CA. CA became a major factor in getting my dealership running and going. A decade later I was drafting jobs for a hi-end cabinet company involving 15 to 30 rooms of cabinets; none of which could have been done with 2020. Many thanks to the folks in Coeur d'Alene.

But you can add a top and a back. Maybe but not really high on my list. In 20 years, I've needed maybe a half dozen of these and another batch of arch top. Many could have been done with solids, several were re-used (when I remember when and for who they were done. :)

No it's the a long way of saying it's difficult. Here without finished back is a cabinet

Depends if you need to have the doors work or just to place there. Here's one way to start. Shown is the beginning of making working cabinets and another just a face. The procedure for just making faces is a lot less work. Start with an elevation. Mark the end of the cabinet run with a line. Take a detail from view Go to the detail and use the line that is bottom of stairs, add to it and resize to get a polyline of correct siz in the location you want, Close that pline and convert to a solid. Copy and paste into plan. Convert back to a polyline, then to a countertop Set thickness and height off floor. Add moldings with proper offset (sample included) Convert to cabinet door symbol, rotate so it is vertical. Set a stretch zone and change the bounding box (open the symbol included to see settings under advanced sizing.) If you want functioning cabinets you have to do something similar to what is included in the attached X15 plan. You will likely need 4 cabinet to make it work. If you want backs on the cabinets you need to make those as well (or just reflect a door symbol and live with the rails and stiles OR make a single new solid...) You may need more than one door symbol. Good luck trying to hinge the one on the far left or you image.. Angle cabinet.zip

Depending on how you intend to build it and what is 9 and what is 10 ft. and what you want the attic space floor to be like you could- A- set ceiling default ceiling height to 9 ft. Turn OFF auto rebuild roof. Then select the 10 foot rooms and change the ceiling height. OR B- You can set the ceiling height to 10', have roof set to raise 2' Then wherever there is a 9' ceiling change the ceiling finish to drop down.

I believe that is where this thread started. It is a library containing one Style Palette named " Hardware" , import it into chief (name has spaces to start so it ends up at the top of the user library). Once in library select it and click on a base cabinet it will paint the attributes onto the cabinet similar to dropping hardware on....see what it does. Then go back to the object in the library, right click it, open object, click the gear symbol (set properties), when that opens select "Help" or hit the F1 key. When in doubt (even when not) open all dialog boxes (DBX) and or go to Help (F1) That way you'll be up and running in not time (though some Chief training is worth every penny

The P.O.is New Paltz but am actually closer. Physically in Modena.

Do mean proximity fixed? First string is set to 18, second string is set to 36. Both were pulled over the cabinets Then start to drag and snaps to the fixed distance

You are using a wall elevation. There is a wall where you get dimensions but an invisible wall behind the island. Change to a backclipped section. OR setup a default set to do cabinet elevations manually (that's what I use instead of auto dims but you need several for different sets conditions so you can just click and drag) Snip 2- could copy one camera in place, move forward, change technique to line drawing no squiggles or such and gray lines. Stack the two in layout.

An oddity here is that rotating a pull in the main "Door/Drawer" tab of the DBX has no effect. It must be done from the "Front/Side/Back" panel. Front side back panel below @DaniellaZV once you have one cabinet you are happy with make a style palette that only uses the hardware. Then you can paint other cabinets with it. (sample attached) Hardware only SP.calibz

As a KD I always drew at least the adjacent rooms though sometimes just added windows etc. approximately. If I had prints always drew the entire structure. It's just too fast and easy in CA and often got me more work from the contractors or architects. (Also great to show the client what thing look like from other spaces or entering the front door.) Sometime took photo from doorway to next room. Placed a billboard with the image just past the doorway in plan. Billboards outside sliding doors and large windows too. Allways had at least a full exterior, roof and foundation which can help with renderings. Roof also helps avoid issues when venting out. For larger projects my preference was to draw the entire house. Easier to see spacial relationships. If multi story helps avoid problems. After switching to remote drafting for others I had a lot of larger projects. Usually continued to draw entire structure. I prefer tracing a dwg when possible. If supplied with a PDF I converted that to DWG (now adays I use AB Viewer for that) Have always had a separate cad program (TurboCad Deluxe, AB viewer) so I could turn off layers or delete unwanted clutter before importing into Chief. Not always necessary if file has layers but often converted PDFs don’t. In any case makes life easier. In all cases import the dwg into a CAD detail in Chief. A separate plan is a good idea. Then copy and paste to working plan. I had one client that just drew separate rooms which has pros and cons. On the one hand it can be easier, on the other can be annoying for renderings and does not show relationships of spaces. It can be easy to miss the effect structural changes in revisions have on adjacent spaces. (Note that there was a project with several ceiling height changes on the same floors. The person that drew separate rooms had never learned how those are done and had a hard time making their revisions until they understood) One other thing I fiddled with a bit at the end was to draw entire structure. Then save as. The purpose was to allow different cabinet defaults in separate plans. The downside though was the aforementioned structural changes needed to be done on each plan. I eventually ended up just using style palettes for different styles in other rooms with the kitchen set for the cabinet defaults.

Reference display- defined a layer and applied to objects, selected reference dispaly (F9) then "change reference floor display (ctrlm, shift, g) copied the layers set and changed to only show what is wanted.

IF you keep working in the folder they sent you there is no need to associate textures since Chief will be looking in that folder. To do that: In the existing folder copy the plan file, rename it and use that to create the as built. Not exactly. The method Scott suggests will copy ALL of the textures not just the ones not in the library. One way to deal with it if it's important to get the new textures is: Copy the plan file to a different folder and open it in Chief. Then create a backup that includes "All referenced files" \A DBX will pop up that says One or more files needed for this export could not be found. That will be a list of textures not in the library (well mostly, you may have some of them but Chief can't find em. Do a screen shot of the list, then go to Plan Materials, ctrl select the noted textures and "Add to Library" An easier solution would be to ask the supplier to name all custom textures in a way that they are easy to find. I often use a space and the first few letters of the project. The space makes the texture show at the top of the list in Plan Materials. (Note the WGH2_3 back listed- that goes back to when I first though of doing that for clients some years ago)

No, 3D imports will always be a symbol. You have to draw in Chief. Depending on version of SU, could export a 2D dwg (or pdf floor plans) of each floor then trace in CA. You will be able to snap to lines of a dwg but not a pdf.

I get that though it does clear eventually. My solution is to assign keyboard shortcuts to all rendering techniques. If I want to move, adjust anything I switch to standard view (VS for me) then back to RTRT (VP for physically based). EZ, fast, no lock up. Handy going to glass house to find lost things too.

Changed closer to settings from vert lights I use. Changed sun and backdrop intensity. Altered glass in left cabinet which works in Standard view. Replaced glass in right cabinet with opening no material for RTRT. Standard RTRT Vert lights.zip

Aside from making separate symbols on way would be to: make a material for the mullions set as stretch to fit. First you have to make the glass area of the material blank in a photo program then save as png Then.. Make a custom door symbols from a wall cabinet, that is" 3/4" thick; separations set to what you need in the job; reveal set to 0; Front is side panel inset with a slab door- use the mullion material on the frontuse a single slab door for front, Back of cabinet also a side panel inset but a custom door symbol that is a slab 1/4" thick set Y origin for it to offset 7/16 into the cabinet. Make that glass. I did a quickie just using your graphic to see what it would look like resized. Didn't take the time to go to photo editor but have done that in the past. Here is how you Gothic Mullions (hoops) resize.