MarkMc

Style pallet can change textures and object properties. It can't change layout. You could use reference sets in both plan and in 3D. A structure, plan a layout, plan b layout...It only works for plans and perspectives in Standard view

I mentioned this while talking with couple of Chief folks at the show and they thought it was a good idea so passing it on. Recently I was working on a hospital cafeteria that had a lot of symbols with custom textures and it started slogging when working. Set it up to have 3 plans-one with all the furniture, another without, and one with everything. I used a reference set to see the symbol plan while working,and for 3D Standard views. Used the complete plan with everything for PBR and finals. I did have to update the complete plan for finals sent to layout using paste and hold from the furniture plan but I had set all of that on layers designed to allow deleting them first. IF not doing PBR then that step can be skipped, just send referenced views to layout. It made it all far more manageable.

I'd add that using the project browser makes it all fast and simple, keep it open. There is also the option to use reference sets to other plans in 3D. It's better for exterior but still can be useful with interiors.

https://chieftalk.chiefarchitect.com/topic/24925-method-to-show-multiple-options-kitchens-or-other/ This isn't the thread where it was asked, just where I placed an answer. It's how I had been doing this since before I used Chief (easier in Chief) Thought of a bit of additional info that I'll add there.

Same way contractors live the life of Reily right? At the show I mentioned to one that I was pleased that they took care of a lot of little niggles. He called them "paper cuts" and said they give those to interns and new hires, they've added a number in the last couple.

Since I'm still looking at a new build I talked to a couple of the developers about this and where they are going. Working on support for RTX,The rendering team all just got RTX 2070s, Somebody is tasked with just working on performance, completely rewriting legacy sections of code. They are taking a bunch of the worst plans they can find and going at them bit by bit. Supposedly that will be their job for some time to come, sounded like more than a year (forever?) Multi-thread performance is being worked on- unclear how many matter but...it all makes me want try to get to the user meeting this year but new machine comes first so will $ee? I aim for a 5 or so year system. What I came away with get as much juice as you can afford, within reason, surprise surprise. I'm thinking higher core count (AMD) and since I'm now looking at around April-May (hopefully) RTX 3070 which is likely to drop in March. FWIW I"m budgeting 2500 to build -but recently looked at one of the boutique BTO sites and put something I'd be happy enough with for between 2600 (but really a bit over 3000) so I may get away with a bit less (or get better stuff OR manage to get to Idaho :)

That is most likely a symbol origin issue which would depend on which dishwasher you are using? Some have the origins off, especially brought over from older versions OR imported. Which dishwasher? post the plan? open the symbol and check the origin.

Is this what you are trying to do? Interior alder extension jambs.planalder extension jambs.plan Exterior If so it's a symbol made to be used as Shutters. The origins are changed to make it work and the frame is reduced so there is no z fighting. If you are also actually using shutters then you need to make a symbol that combines this with the shutters and play with the origins to get it right. It's also possible that you may need to lock the symbol with or set the stretch planes or zones so that the "jamb" doesn't resize. Plan included with the symbol. Open the symbol and check the origin offsets- for a different wall they need to change as does the depth of the symbol. Also open the window DBX and check the frame tab and the shutters. If it's not what you're after ...oh well it's been fun :) alder extension jambs.plan

What about a CAD detail from view, then draw a line and trim using it for a fence, marquee select leftovers and delete.?

I believe Mick is correct-if you still think it does not work post the plan and let us see. It's worked for me without fail since X something (I don't remember when we got this but it wasn't yesterday :)

Someone asked about showing various layout options in a single plan file. I don't understand the need for it in a plan file. I do understand needing to keep it all together so here is a method I've used in various forms to deal with showing options. This is set up as a kitchen but the principals apply elsewhere. (I didn't make this up-several folks on the forum, myself included, do this sort of thing for all kinds of projects). A zip file is attached. This is similar to a set I use for kitchens. This only uses a single plan view for each file: an existing, option 1 with plan and elevations and started option 2 only including the plan. Set it up in a single folder that you can copy and rename (I use directory Opus to batch prepend a project name to all the files in the folder). You can have as many plans as you think you will need. To set up: place a point at absolute 0,0 draw walls starting there (that way if you are importing a dwg you can move it so things jive with the layout before tracing) place cameras you expect to need. These are just set for kitchens. For larger project or exteriors set up elevations and sections elsewhere. (I typically only do the options by floor instead of trying to get it all in a multi floor plan until a few things are settled-a bit risky but not as messy-YMMV) send your existing plan (views) and elevations to layout. Once all views go to the first page, select any views on it, go a new page after the last used page (in this case that is the Option 1 Page) then paste and hold position. Relink the view to the new option plan Repeat for each page, copy views, go to new page, paste and hold position, link to new file. This is so much easier working in Arch D than 11 x 17 since it has more views on a page. Relinking is the same problem for either during set up but gets easier once all is in place. Once you have all your option plans and the layout in a folder close it all out. Starting a new project using this: Add a project name, or whatever convention you use for naming files, to each file in the folder-all plans and layout. Open the layout. Go to menu Tools, Layout, Referenced Plan Files (it's nice if you have a hotkey for that ) Relink each file to it's newly named counterpart. Save Get to work. Hope this helps someone. There is quite a bit you can do with these principles if you think about it a bit. Kitchen Options.zip Edit-this is easier now with X12 where it is possible to duplicate pages within a layout OR Have two layouts open. In that case you set up one layout linked to an existing plan and one option plan. Save as, new name, new plan option file, link the entire layout to the new plan file. Open the first layout, both layouts are open, add a new page to the first layout, go to plan page and select ALL the layout boxes, copy. Go back over to the new page, paste and hold position. Repeat as needed. Edit- Using this in a client meeting: Set this up just prior to meeting. Open layout, open each kitchen plan, drag the tab for each kitchen plan off to create a new instance of Chief. That's easiest if you have multiple monitors but can be done on just one with a little practice. Then, one a time, in each instance open the project browser and open a perspective (I use one plan view that is just for showing 3D cameras that I named). During this phase I use tech illustration for rendering type which keeps the client focused on layout and not finishes and uses fewer resources than PBR Now during the meeting you can switch between versions with alt-tab of the mac equivalent. Just be careful how many other views, elevation etc you open depending on your computer resources.

This is not a bug, just an annoyance. To make it work you must: A-set the side to either paneled or auto paneled B-select full overlay C-SPECIFY the door style in the accessories tab, panels, selecting from the library. As noted at the end of the other thread on this you can set the door style to match your cabinet door style in the defaults. Then you don't have to fiddle with it unless you want something different which you can do

You need to go back and re-read that thread about the panels since you missed something there. Then call support and tell them how it's done.

I never do 360. Have tried it and not always happy with the result and the clients were not impressed. During the design process I start out with Tech Illustrations to keep them focused on the spacial and functional aspects of design which is why they come to me in the first place. That prevents them from getting too involved in finishes and forgetting the rest. During meetings I often show Standard/Vector views. I show them what PBR will look like using a previous job or two BUT emphasize that they MUST select finishes from real life samples. Once the layout is (mostly) settled I use PBRs, done prior to the meeting and keep optional materials in a dedicated folder in the user library. I try to prevent having to spend excessive time matching a sample on screen by just doing the best I can before they get to see it. Finals are exported as PNG image at 3-600 dpi with a unit size set (6-9" wide) then imported into the layout. Cameras are saved but layout views are static not live. I do something similar for my drafting clients since the materials are often selected during revisions. They are given Tech Illustration, update on demand, so they can alter the camera views to suit, though I often have to do that live in a Zoom for them. Finals for most are PBR. There will often be overhead renders done in watercolor with line included along the way, always when multiple rooms or full home. Exteriors are very often Ray Trace if it counts. Third party renders rare as are super good (extra time) PBR or RT.

I just try to remember to set it to match the door default when setting the defaults-takes care of 95% of what I end up doing.

Kind of brings back Eric's first suggestion-post the plan.

Either use Paneled or Auto paneled in the "SIDE TYPE" field.

Then listen to Eric, it works here. Wall with crown.plan

Move the furring to the main layer.

Not sure what you mean there since the Kraftmaid catalog has dozens of door styles, finishes, species. There is no way for the program to know what you want as default. This would be no different in 2020 or any other kitchen design software. How I deal with client specific mfg (or anything else) Set up a library folder for the client (or the job), adding spaces to the front of the name so it is at or near the top of the library list. For a cabinet brand then a sub-folder within that. Find out what the most common doorstyles they use are-they never use all of em and rarely use more than half a dozen. Copy those to your folder. I copy most or all of the wood species and finishes. Moldings -the Kraftmaid catalog in CA doesn't have any (?) so get hold of a pdf catalog to find out what you need or find out what the client uses most and place in a sub folder. Once you have all that then if you set your defaults from there and need to change them Chief will open to that folder which saves a tone of clicking around the library. As to cabinets-none of Chief's catalogs have cabinets in them. I make the most used ones that are work to configure (as Kbird noted more info on that posted in the past). The big trick with cabinets comes when you want to generate a schedule suitable for ordering. That means that you need labels to match the makers specs. In Kraftmaid this is a bit of a bear since they use so many different labels. Instead of adding an accessory it becomes a new cabinet label. Building a user library for that would get more than a little cumbersome. Hopefully you are not expected to provide that level of detail and can get away with a more generic schedule? IF I had to do a Kraftmaid schedule for someone on a regular basis I'd be looking at a macro to generate the label. Now most brands I can use a very simple macro for that and then have some specific cabinets in the library. For KM that would not be adequate. I had written a macro back a ways for Showplace which was also complicated though not quite as bad as KM. It should exist somewhere on the forum. If you need something like that and are not versed in Ruby it would be wise to contact Alaskan Son or Joe Carrick or someone who writes macros for a fee. My 2 cents.

No need for custom cabinets to get one of these. These are even available in an inexpensive builder grade brand like Merrilat Classic as well as every semi custom box mfg I know of. If buying off the shelf you might need to use 3 cabinets required but the local box store even has a 60" in stock It's easier to move around than typical tall cabinet or a lazy suzan, I've never had an issue. At the same time a single cabinet will typically costs less than using 3 cabinets (50% in one brand I just checked), slightly increases usable storage, and is faster to install.

For interiors the X3 is fine. Exteriors either X4 or better is my take on it.

Haven't used a Bosch so can't help. Started with a Disto X3 but was getting more exterior work so got a 7500i and sold off the X3 to a client. Both synced to Chief on the Spectre just fine (Windows ONLY). Expensive? more than I would have liked but each paid for itself in 2 jobs of saved time and trouble.

3D view defaults-I have mine at .35, some plans I kick it up a tad.

Read up on arch blocks, schedules and the OIP (object information panel) fields. Open everything that is included in plan-everything. two sink vanity.plan