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Do you mean finish material or measurements?

Lower wall, try "balloon through ceiling above"

It does look good! Well done! I like the molding under the railing shoe.

I think those would need to be made. How badly do you need those exact symbols?

Whatever! I'm trying that out ASAP!

I'd actually like a lock feature for drawings in layout so that you could lock and prevent updating for all layout boxes.

For me, this is a good thing. I may need to make a change to a completed set that doesn't affect some elevation views so I don't want them to update and then have to redo the cleanup of errant lines. This is really only for lines that need to be deleted because I use CAD lines for lines that need to be added (they won't disappear after a drawing update).

You'd need to choose 'Open' instead of panels. This will remove the panels from all views.

Live View issues:

Then I'm always looking at dog crap...

Yes it does, as long as the printer uses a quality print setting. Black lines with black fill areas can create a problem though.

I can not. I find that live views make working in layout soooo slow. Plus, what about all the errant lines in an elevation drawing?

There are no materials that are transparent in the vector view. When using screens or glass that I want to see beyond in an elevation view, I have those 3d surfaces modeled separately so they are OFF in my elevation view and I use a CAD fill to illustrate the glass / screen. In the screenshot, the glass railing is a CAD box with a transparent fill.

You can see in this view how the color elevation answers a lot of questions about the buildings appearance.

Plot Lines, Color Fill, and Pattern Line Defaults, but NOT Edge Line Defaults (usually). In the past, the Live View resulted in edge lines that were slightly blurry when viewing the pdf on screen...which causes eye fatigue. My MO is seeing..not looking!

They can print black and white...but it'll be gray scale. They can't 'turn off' the color. Grayscale printing will use a lot of black ink and in my experience some print shops do a great job and others do not. Think grayscale but using black ink only and at a 'draft' quality...not good!

I have clients that like color, others do not, others want both! For those that want both, I'll copy the elevation drawings to added pages at the very end of the layout. That way its simple for the client to omit them when printing. I limit my color use on floor plans to colors that are dark yet clearly distinguishable when viewing on screen, but will still print nicely if printed using black ink only.

A good reminder that whenever sending someone a dwg file, the kind thing to do is to list the exported parameters!

I like that David! I'll go with the above, although honestly, any perceived force is really just thinly veiled sarcasm.

It's ok kids, I'm just venting...I don't get frustrated!

I thought it was a carpenters rule: leave one unsanded and install one with grain perpendicular... 2700_C-A_X12.plan

When working with Chief, you learn to keep a miter saw, and tin-snips, and heck, even a chainsaw tucked right under the desk for easy access. I've learned that the sledge should be kept under lock and key in a different room!

I left this corner running into the post at angle because I didn't feel like modelling the whole darned thing. It would be a whole lot easier to extrude the rail if the model were built on Chief's supplied grid instead of way out in the boonies! Then the x,y,z coordinate would me much more intuitive!

Miters, bolts, counter-bores, glue, plugs, not necessarily in that order!

If this is what your after, it has to be built manually using every trick and method know to mankind. 3d molding for shoe beside stair 3d molding for handrail beside stair copy of stair converted to symbol for spindles manually adjusted wall polyline manually placed newels...all of them