Alaskan_Son

You guys got me thinking. When does that upper bar become a work surface that needs its own outlet? And at what point does the outlet below that work surface violate code?

Can you post a plan?

I'm not sure this is a bug so much as it is an instance of unexpected behavior. The software is doing what it was designed to do. You've just found an instance where the behavior is undesirable. I agree that there should be a way to turn the auto numbering off. In the meantime, there are a few things you can do to kill that particular automation in a Rich Text Box. You can basically use any other kind of other automatically bulleted list or you could prepend the lines with your own character manually. For example: Using a standard automatic bullet (Circles, Empty): Using a manual bullet (dash): Prepending all lines with a space: Or even prepending lines with a zero width space character so there's no discernible character at all:

This sounds like a completely different question. The answer though is yes, you can do that, but it would require using that many different schedules.

@Chopsaw gave you the answer but it can be a bit nuanced. You might want to check out the settings for both the Cabinet Label and the Schedule Labels:

It depends on how advanced you want to get. The easiest thing is to simply overlay 2 views in layout.

Create Orthographic Full Overview and then 3D>View Direction>Top View

I don't have a whole heck of a lot to say about AMD vs. Intel but regarding the video card... I wouldn't spend anything extra for an upgraded video card in today's market unless your business HEAVILY utilizes Chief for photo realistic renderings or needs it for some other software you're running. Shoot, I'm still not even using an RTX card and I'm not having any problems. I can't use the newer PBR features, but then again, I don't really need to and if I need to do a ray trace, I can still use the old CPU ray tracer. The video card can almost always be upgraded later if you find the need, and hopefully at that point the prices will have dipped back down a bit.

I've used this type in the past and was actually super happy with it. Doesn't hardly require any special modifications to the cabinetry either. Mostly you just need to know that its going to cut the usable space down just a bit:

I seriously want to try and do something about this and would encourage others to do the same if you agree. Many of the islands we design are barely big enough to be used as a functional island as it is without introducing an outlet (and resulting obstruction) to the surface. They're foolishly introducing a whole new and entirely untested risk by putting wires up on the work surface of every new island. On a personal note, it will also make me sad not to be able to use these outlet strips anymore. I absolutely love having them available to quickly plug small countertop appliances into and out clients love them too:

Code requirements are political. How do you think they're written, maintained, mandated, and enforced? And how do you think us as builders and designers get them amended when necessary? By the way, I found this one statement at the end of the article a little funny: Failure to comply can result in serious safety hazards. Is it only a serious safety hazard when its a code requirement? Was it not a serious safety hazard when you installed that same outlet on the side of the island last week? Kinda scary to think you just walked away from a serious safety hazard and just left it that way.

There are several ways to do what you want. For walls though, the Opening (Doorway or Pass-Through) method should work just fine, especially if all you need is a basic rectangular hole. You just need to temporarily turn off Bumping/Pushing (F11) or override all snaps using the Control key to slide another object into the same location. For your Floor, try using Build>Floor>Hole in Floor Platform

Select your wall and open its dialog. Click on the Components tab. The top item on that list of Components should be your siding material. This is where the Materials List is getting its information from. You can make various modifications right there on the Components tab, but assuming you haven't and that you're just letting Chief do its thing: Now click on the Wall Type tab, take mental note of the Wall Type that's currently selected, and then click on the Define tab. This is where your automated Components are getting their information from. You should be setting your walls to use the proper wall type, and you should be properly defining your walls (ideally in your default settings and before you even draw them). It sounds like what you've done is simply changed the Material on the Materials tab. What you really need to do is change the actual wall definition. At this point, you'll also need to fix your walls so that they reference the proper material by clicking on that Material tab, selecting that Exterior Surface, and then clicking on the little Use Default checkbox down at the bottom of the Library Browser. Quick Tip: You can also use the spray can (Material Painter) tool in 3D to return materials to their default state. Just click on the Material Painter tool, check the same Use Default checkbox mentioned above or select Use Default from the Plan Materials, and then click on the wall to return that surface to its default state.

Pretty sure Chief was just doing some housecleaning and decided to do away with some of the redundant room types that were just making an already long list a little shorter and less cluttered. If we want any of those additional room types in our template plan(s), it can seriously be done in far less time than what I'm sure it took you to write up your post.

That's 323 people a year or roughly 1 out of a million people. If that seems unreasonable to you that maybe you're a heartless monster. I do wonder however how many of those were the same people just not learning. "Many of them children" for the first few years and then them was adults for the rest of them years.

I've set this kind of thing up for quite a few offices. These are all completely automatic: Shoot me an email to alaskansons@gmail.com if you're interested and we can take it from there.

No. They're not. You could use a macro recorder that will record and simulate things like mouse clicks and keystrokes, but that's nothing like the example you've described. Chief doesn't give us any access to the internals like that.

Sorry, but the information you've received from Chat GPT is total and complete rubbish. It's beyond repair, completely irredeemable and I see nothing in it even remotely worth discussing. I'd say you took a turn onto a dead end except that you didn't even turn onto as road. Its more like you've taken a hard right directly into a brick wall.

I completely agree that there are a good number of ways to reach the desired results almost (if not) completely via “automated” capabilities. You just need to learn to use the tools a little better. That being said, I also don’t this it’s fair to suggest there’s something wrong with the software just because we have to switch to “manual” features. That’s what they’re there for.

Opening indicators aren't showing on my system either Alan. I don't see any cause right off the top, but something about both your cabinet and your cabinet door symbol seems to be corrupted. I cannot for example click on those doors or the appliance in the problematic cabinet dialog to select them. I can however click on the drawer. Also, if you replace the door style with a different door, the opening indicators show up. In fact, if you add those cabinet doors back to your Library using the Add to Library As tool and then paint them onto your cabinet, then the opening indicators show up as well.

Or like some of the others where many jurisdictions just amend it right out. I think it will be particularly problematic for the many jurisdictions where electrical requirements are only inspected/enforced by the electrical inspector and where the electrical inspectors are only referencing the NEC. Anyway, I'm normally pretty easy going and just adjust to these changes. This one really kinda sucks though. One of the greatest things about islands is having a large, open, and completely smooth working surface. introducing a popup outlet really has a negative affect on all but the largest of islands.

You can get that part by setting a foundation offset in the wall type.

My thoughts exactly. Thank you Alan...Also, this is dumb. They're just opening up the door to a worse problem OR the homeowner or someone else is just going to come along after the main project is done and install an outlet on the side of the cabinet just like we've always done...or install an outlet inside the cabinet and use an aftermarket product of some sort to extend it out from there in an even less appropriate fashion.

Does anyone here know of a way to force Chief to use a room type other than Unspecified for the automatically generated foundation room on any given plan? For various reasons, I want my crawlspace areas to be the Crawlspace room type while still leaving Auto Rebuild toggled on, but I can't actually find a way to do that.

I think that works. I would probably change that to "GFCI Below" though just to make it a bit more clear.