HumbleChief

I don't know how many of you use DropBox but they have a version history feature that will 'restore' older file versions while saving current versions. BRILLIANT! I think I instructed X12 to use a default toolbar when installing it on my laptop and my custom toolbar was missing. DropBox - version history - June 5th file - RESTORE - toolbar is back. Sweet.

I loaded Chief on to my laptop and must have told it to get rid of my custom tool bars and install a default. Can't seem to recover the older customized toolbar file. Maybe dropbox?

THANKS Chris, been forever since I was not online with Chief.

Can't remember and will be presenting at a client's house with my lap top. Thanks.

Interesting thought/idea.

There's an option in the edit plan view dbx that might work for you?

Yes, must have misinterpreted your post.

Like floor level, zoom level, reference layers, pony wall display, couple other items. The floor level thing is very cool for my work flow.

Looks like this Joey. See the little wrench icon in the drop down list? Might fit the way you work?

I didn't know there were separate controls and a drop down list for default (Anno) sets. I've added to my tool bar. Seems as good a work flow as any. Again thanks for taking the time to reply.

Thanks for taking the time and totally understand anyone's work flow that works for them.

Curious Joey, and in no way would I challenge your preferred work flow but are you saying (typing) above that you have 100 different plan views in your project browser but prefer not to use them? Could you explain? Thanks

Looks like the term Annotation Set has already been phased out and replaced by 'Default Sets' but the functionality of the Default Sets mimics Anno Sets behavior so I think we can still use Anno Sets just under another name/term. Confusing again, but I think perhaps Chief discovered the potential power of Saved Plan Views and is going to leverage that power for future function in future versions but it looks like Anno Sets will live to fight another day, currently disguised as Default Sets.

Never seen that. Got a plan?

Yeah these things are funny because as I'm trying to explain the concepts I realize I barely get it sometimes as Chief can just scramble a brain given even the smallest opportunity. I bet we see some more changes with Plan Views that will make them even more powerful in the future.

BINGO....

You can absolutely use the Electrical Annotation Set - but you don't have to. That Anno Set can be a part of the active defaults for that Plan View or not. If it is a part of the Saved Plan View and you want it to remain a part of that Saved Plan View then any changes need to occur in that Anno Set. It actually adds an additional step where active defaults covers everything that an Anno set does in that single dialog box.

My interpretation of Saved Plan Views in video below but it's always best to find a method that works best for you and your work flow.

One of the things that use to drive me crazy about Anno and Layer Sets is that they were never floor specific. So I had a Foundation Anno/Layer Set but whenever I'd change to that Set I also had to change to the foundation level to view the Foundation Plan and its associated Anno/Layers. Then back to the Floor Plan Set and would have to then go up a level to the floor plan. Plan Views now allow floor specific views. FIRST FLOOR PLAN VIEW always shows the first floor plan. SECOND FLOOR PLAN VIEW always shows the second floor. FOUNDATION PLAN VIEW always show the foundation. All the navigation, up, down, specific view can now take place in the Plan Views without ever chaning floors manually or having to save views more than once.

Yeah that strategy is completely understood and I was super cautious at first until I made some bone head changes that weren't a disaster then began to relax and understand the intent behind Saved Plan Views and Anno Sets and the role of active defaults. ...and the active defaults are specific to that plan view so it's hard to screw up another plan view for that reason but stick with what works for you as Chief is already confusing enough.

General right path in my opinion but not sure about #2 as Saved Plan Views take advantage of 'Active Defaults' which replace the need for Annotation Sets. Confusing yes, but we can now choose to ignore Anno Sets and simply use the Active Defaults as set up when creating/modifying/editing a Saved Plan View.

Steve, The attached tool bar set up has helped a lot when implementing/creating/editing Plan Views as well. Hope it helps.

I think 'saved plan views' is one of the most important and useful Chief features that has EVER been introduced. I also think they will be leveraged to add even more power in future versions so learning them now will only benefit Chief's basic work flow.

...and a couple other fun boxes you can check from Robert's post above, both starting with the word 'Retain'.