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It took a while....but they did improve the point to point tool. It can happen. But, I’m not holding my breath...

+1. Maybe next year? You might want to post this in suggestions.

X12 is an amazing new release...did a quick video showing a few things you can do with the Tray Ceiling Tool. I'm sure as we go along people will discover other more incredible ways to use this tool. This video covers the basics and shows how to use it. Hope you enjoy!

So far for me...it's not behaved as you describe. Maybe because I'm on a Mac?

But...has the "revamped" tool really making anything more difficult in Chief...or, is it just different and we all have to get used to it? Maybe the next tool from Chief will be something that reads our minds and builds the roof we want automatically? Oh...that would be some kind of tool!

Thanks for looking into this. Yes...the tool needs a bit of "tweaking". Still...overall, it's a great new feature.

I made a video about this some time ago...here it is. Hope it helps.

yes...look at the wall definition in my post. Change the definition of your railing wall to match. also...create a room below the “balcony”...just make sure you have room definition. This room can be undefined. Just change the the ceiling material to stucco. The ceiling is the underside of the balcony above.

I'd do a number of things. 1 - Change the deck room to a "BALCONY". Like @DRAWZILLA said above...it gives you a lot of control over the design of the floor system. 2- I'd put a room under the "deck/balcony". I'd copy the deck railing walls...and then move down a floor and "paste and hold position". Uncheck "railing" in the wall specification dialog. Also...make sure you get room definition. Then...open this room dialog and specify a stucco ceiling...in the pics I posted I make the ceiling 1.5" Beige Stucco. 3 - Regarding the Balcony floor system...the structure should be the 9.25" joists and the plywood decking. And make the floor finish however...I just used a brown fiber material and made it 1/8" thick. 4 - I changed the railing wall type also. I made a copy of the stucco-4 wall, called it "stucco-4 @ deck railing". The only change was I removed the wall sheathing and the interior drywall. See the picture below. 5 - Also, open the balcony room dialog (2nd floor) and adjust the floor elevation so that the bottom of the 2x10 joists sit on top of the wall. I think you will need to drop the floor elevation about 2.25" or so...you may have to play with this to get it exact.

@Alaskan_Son Ok...one more little issue with the style pallet tool. If you have a room with "glass walls" (such as a shower)...and you create a room style pallet that changes the color of the room walls...then, this material color will be applied to the glass in the shower. You will have to manually change the material back to tempered glass. The glass in a shower is a "WALL"...and as such all walls get changed. This isn't great...but I can live with it. Hopefully they improve this tool over time... It does not change glass in a door in the room...so, if you have place a glass divided light door say in a Study/Den...using a room style pallet won't change the door glass.

Agreed....I just think the tool is a bit confusing. Seems to me they should tweak how it works. When you choose an object in the style pallet...it should only allow you to edit what can be "changed".

The new Style Pallet tool allows you to add a "window" object...and it appears you can edit this object to your hearts content. However, when you go to paint the object in a room...or maybe directly on the window itself it appears that only cosmetic things change. The casing, sill, lintel, lite pattern and materials change...but, the size/style of the window does not change. Not sure if this is the way it's supposed to work...or, it's a bug?

After using the Style Pallet tool for a bit...I have to agree. Maybe some general pallet styles...and just "tweak" as needed. Much easier than trying to create and name numerous styles.

Yes...it’s a Mac thing

Thanks. I didn't realize you could do that...such as; pressing c and w simultaneously...for cabinet, wall? Instead of pressing C then pressing W for Wall Cabinet.

OK...you lost me. What do you mean by "simultaneous" shortcuts.

My most used hotkeys are for "Copy and Reflect About". Let's face it...it's probably what we do more than anything when designing a new floor plan...or even creating roofs. So...I use the number keypad; 1-1 is for Copy; 0-1 is for "Reflect About". I use my left hand so I don't have to take my hand off the mouse. I do copy/reflect so fast I hardly even notice when I'm doing it...it's become rote for me. I also use the number keys at the top of my keyboard; I have the following that I use all the time; 1-1 for Line; 1-2 for polyline; 1-3 for Slab I have set all my hotkeys to use two keystrokes...but, I may re-think this. I like Michaels "L" for line...sort of makes sense doesn't it?

The "style pallet" tool is a fantastic new feature...talk about a time saver. Wow. Now...How are you going about naming a style pallet. For instance...a Kitchen room pallet...where you have a base cabinet with a door style, maybe it's painted a unique color, has a specific pull style hardware, maybe the interior of the cabinet is painted a unique color...and then the wall cabinet is a different color. Say dark gray base cabinets and white wall cabinets. Also...is the room painted a unique color...and is the base changed and crown style added. I find it a bit difficult to name such a complex style with a name that reminds me of what is included. Maybe the strategy should be smaller pallets...one just for base cabinets...one for wall cabinets and one for the room? Ideas? Thanks...good topic.

Changing "layer sets" is good...but, to control the layer that text is going on you probably need to edit or change the "default sets" in the KITCHEN/BATH Plan View. I'd bet that your "shell" plan view and your new plan view are both placing text on the same layer...and that is why your "shell" plan view keeps changing. Just a guess...you might want to post the plan or at least some screen clips of your "plan views" dialog boxes.

Have you read the help file? I'm no expert on material lists...but there is a lot of info in the help file that might help you out. An easy way to get to this help...go to tools/material list/master list (or...just hit CTRL+M) Then...when the master list is open...click on the question mark at the top and the help file will open directly into the Master List help file.

Ok...it’s always something. Thanks for taking the time.

@solver thanks Eric. Good video. I agree...the molding would be a problem in vector view.

Yep...another "genius" suggestion Michael. And, it works...sort of. See the section below...the lower ceiling loses the top surface...which is easy enough to fix. I'd probable use Ben's suggestion and just attach a molding to the lower ceiling to create the "recessed" look.

Well...I've discovered that once you create a "tray ceiling"...you select the line of the tray ceiling and this action then gives you the "nested tray ceiling icon" on the bottom toolbar. But creating a two stepped tray ceiling as per my example B above I don't believe is possible....maybe someone can enlighten me. Thanks!

OK...I've been messing around with the "Tray Ceiling" tool in X12. Cannot for the life of me figure out how to create a "nested" tray ceiling. In the help file it shows to unique icons...one for a "tray"...and one for a "nested tray". I cannot find where this "nested" tray menu or icon exists. Is the nested ceiling shown below in Example B possible with the Nested Tray Ceiling tool? Thanks!