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  1. Read back through this thread for a history of contemplation and consideration on this issue. We know the technical reasons why. What we don’t know, or didn’t at the time, is whether or not this issue can be addressed by the PDF generator in the first place, preventing it from becoming a problem at all.
  2. Got it. Just can't "automatically generate" a whole roof system without manual intervention, letting Chief figure out the details. That's fine ... I was just trying to see how some felt that you could pretty much build any roof automatically. Simpler roofs, yes. But more complex roofs, no. Oh, you sly dog ... Definitely didn't see THAT one! Thank you.
  3. Thanks once again, Eric. That is, as the video says, "a powerful tool when you want to manually edit roof planes", and I appreciate the thought. My quest was to achieve these intersections without manually editing the roof planes, but that's really not a practical reality. A very good tip, none the less!
  4. @glennwActually, the construction is pretty straightforward and quite doable and, in fact, already exists. The challenge was to see if Chief's auto roof generation could determine the intersection point and self-tweak that intersection based on changing pitches of the main roof and the porch roof -- it couldn't. If it could, then the designer could play with different pitches to achieve the desired aesthetic without having to intervene to modify and complete the joining of the planes. This happens to be an existing home that we're doing some redesign in, but I was just using it as a test bed because "it looked like an easy one" to check the capabilities of Auto Roofs. Haha! Fooled me!
  5. ... I'm not seeing where you're setting that intersection in question using overhang dimensions. Enlighten me?
  6. ... kind of defeats the purpose of "automatic" roofs! haha. Thanks for the craziness.
  7. Plus, you magically modeled my wife's she-shed! haha!
  8. Dammit, Michael! What did I miss? What is making the porch's shed roof stop at that particular point as it climbs the slope? That is, if I change the pitch to, say, 5:12, it still stops at the same point (and just hovers there above the other roof).
  9. Thank you @Kbird1 ... The truss base may be a reasonable approach, even in this very simple case ... though I'm not sure if they'd require more tweaking or less tweaking then the simple shed roof dieing into he main roof, and then pulling down the main roof slope to the baseline, especially when the both ends of both roofs are to remain visible. Might have to play with it just to see. Either way, auto roofs couldn't handle it, which is what I was trying to determine. Thanks again.
  10. Thanks, Michael. Yes, I know that it's a straightforward exercise for manual roof builds ... I just wanted to see where auto roofs succeed and fail. Thank you for your thoughts ... always appreciated!
  11. @Alaskan_SonMichael, the term we use here is "over-built" or "over-framed". In effect, it is a roof plane that is framed -- in some part -- above another roof plane, and the second plane ties into the first plane at one or more places. In this case, both ends of the primary "salt box" roof shape are visible, as are the ends of the roof over the two-story porch that die into the other roof about ¾ of the way up to the peak. But, what I'm really trying to do is understand where the capabilities of automatically generated roofs succeed and where they fail. I've read that auto roofs can work 100 percent of the time, but my testing proves otherwise. As always, I'm happy being proven wrong ... especially when I can learn from it!
  12. @solver, rumor has it that you're the master at auto roofs, so when you tell me it's not currently possible then I know I can give up. (sigh) I had high hopes that I was going to be utilizing wall settings and auto roofs for everything. I'm reminded of something Dan Baumann once taught me: "Auto Roofs will get somewhere between 0 and 100 percent of your roofs correct." haha! I do appreciate you taking the time to point me toward that link, even though the suggestion is now three years in the making.
  13. Thank you for helping me think this through, but I don't want the pitch change to happen over the exterior wall ... Actually, I don't want to have to determine where the pitch changes at all. It should change wherever the two pitches come together, or it kind of defeats the whole automatic roofs thing. I'm hoping I'm once again missing something simple, like a checkbox that I didn't notice has been there for a dozen versions (e.g. "Overbuild Roof Plane? -- Yes/No")
  14. Just trying to practice on something new on this Monday morning … I've read comments from those who have been more successful than me that 'if I understand how Chief does roofs, I can create just about any roof using auto roofs'. Recently I tried using auto roofs only on a complex multi-plane roof in which the visible portion of one particular plane never touches any wall. I failed. So, today I tried it on a much simpler roof over a "saltbox colonial" with a full-width front porch's shed roof intersecting the main roof's front (hip) plane. I'm failing again, this time with regard to overbuilt planes. If it helps any, I've included a quick screenshot image of the porch roof interaction, which is the at same width as the main roof (both the main roof plane and the overbuilt shed roof plane are aligned at the gable edges and both are visible from the side view). Using auto roofs, the resulting planes keep shifting the main peak to meet the porch roof instead of honoring the main roof and adding an overbuilt shed roof intersection. Any words of wisdom?
  15. What does it look like before you click on that wall? There are three possibilities that come to mind: (1) You've been dimensioning on quite a few layers and they're all being displayed on top of each other (though clicking on the wall wouldn't affect that), (2), as @joey_martin suggested, you've used the Auto Interior Dimension tool and it has overlapped your manual dimensions, or (3) ... I'll await your reply regarding the appearance of dimensions before you click on that wall.