Michael_Gia

Looks great to me.

By the downvotes and messages I’ve received it seems that Saved Plan Views are a religious topic on this forum. I won’t comment anymore. How dare I have an opinion. And your collective answer to OP’s original posts should be, “Plan Views or the highway, suck it up, learn them and only work that way”

You are referring to an object’s “bounding box”. here’s an article... https://www.chiefarchitect.com/support/article/KB-01048/controlling-a-symbol-s-bounding-box.html

If you don’t understand layer sets and default sets don’t go near Saved Plan Views, is an alternate statement to what I was saying. I came to Chief from Softplan. The main attraction was how flexible Chief was and that it offered more than one way to achieve what I was trying to accomplish. Saved Plan Views are great, but they require more setup and a very firm grip on how default sets and layer sets affect your plan and layout, something which OP clearly doesn’t have yet. Baby steps.

I was just suggesting to OP that he focuses on understanding Layer Sets and Default Sets first. Then once he masters that he can move on to Saved Plan Views. I personally only use them when I really need to reference multiple plans but that’s not often. Saved Plan Views are not required and do impose a level of organization that adds to the workflow. It’s my opinion guys, put the pitch forks away.

You don’t need a Saved Plan View to toggle the Reference Display on or off.

You don’t really need “Saved Plan Views”. Focus on “Default Sets” in conjunction with a unique layer set for each Default Set that you send to Layout. From the Layout you can even control and assign different Reference Sets for each View sent. I personally find Saved Plan Views add clutter to the whole process. By the way, they’re not called AnnonSets anymore. They’re called Default Sets. This was a welcomed simplification introduced in X12. Once you get comfortable with Default Sets you can take a stab at Saved Plan Views if you’re the OCD type... lol

I had opened up a case last year over this. I had 4 phone sessions with 2 different reps at Chief. We tried a few things. Nothing was achieved at least on a permanent basis. I did figure out that if has to do with Chief's difficulty when having to work across multiple monitors. I have Chief on my laptop which I connect another monitor to when I'm in the office. The problem always happens when I go to the site and work with the laptop and then return to the office. As soon as I reconnect the larger monitor my toolbars get messed up. Not always but 3/4 of the time. Chief is the only software I've ever seen exhibit this craziness with toolbars. It would be less frustrating if they at least acknowledged it and we could deal with it and move on. Instead they acted like I was the only one in the universe who ever mentioned this or had this problem. They said they often use laptops and go in and out of the office as I do.

I don't think it's the gpu power you nee for raytracing. Lots of threads in this forum if you search gpu. I would personally like to see Chief handle raytraces for us. Just send it off to them, continue working and let them do the heavy lifting. Why tax my computer and tie it up? I've got work to do...

Good point, I wasn’t really paying attention to the fact that the 3D and plan view openings weren’t the same in both views.

Where is the "blend with texture"? Is it in the Wall Type definition? If so, where?

Ok, I found a better way to show Room Labels and Door indicators. I created a Saved Plan View with only the layers, Walls normal, Rooms interior dimensions, Doors Opening Indicators Room labels. I then overplayed this on top of the Water-Color in Layout. Looks good and easy.

This is the water-colour with line drawing over top. Currently my favorite rendering style.

Ok great, so I went to the "floor/ceiling structure" defaults and changed my plywood to a black colour and that fixed it. by the way is there a more intelligent way to show door swing openings other than drawing little arcs in layout view? Thanks!

When I turn off the "walls normal" layer then all of the walls go from black to sub-floor pattern.

So I like to show a dollhouse view as seen below. (plan also attached). Typically I'll change out the 2x4 main layer to a Black Color in the wall definition so it shows up nicely for clients. Then I'll use the Cross-Section slider to a height below the door frames so the door openings show clearer. (I add arced door-swing lines in layout after) The strange thing is the fill on some walls appear as particle board (red oval indicators in photo). Sometimes I can correct some of them to appear black by reversing the direction of the wall (<> tool). This does not fix all walls though. What am I doing wrong? The photo below is from a saved camera view on the first floor called "Dollhouse", standard render. It's the same issue even when doing Water-Color with Line Drawing, which I also like to use a lot. Here is the plan in X12... https://www.dropbox.com/s/5bmud0ahadletw5/E-6 Test Plan.plan?dl=0 Thanks in advance.

You probably have walls that are defined as "no room definition" Click on a wall and open the Wall Specification dialogue box. Goto-> General -> Options -> Deslect "No Room Definition"

Do you have framing on? Or a large PDF that you’ve imported?

This is why text height should not be scale dependent. You should be able to specify what height you want your text regardless of scale. That is, you should be able to specify the “printed” height. So if you chose a printed text height of 1/8 inch for room labels then regardless of which scale the text will always be 1/8” on your printed sheet. This would be far less confusing and no calculations required.

Opaque Windows?

Yes, that’s what I mean.

I think you’re tying too hard. Start with all lights turned off so that Chief is providing the default lighting. Run a 10 pass RayTrace. (Should take less than a minute even on an Atari). Add lighting only if there’s a dark area that you’d like brighter. Ten pass RayTrace again. You’ll be surprised by the results.

I really can't figure out what that "outside room" area is being generated from? I'm pretty sure it has something to do with the facade wall where the front door wall sets back only 12 inches from the garage wall. If I increase it to 24" then I can avoid the constant connection issues I have with these walls. Even after I get them connected properly they can inadvertently disconnect on a whim even when working on something totally unrelated on another part of the plan.

Thanks! I never thought of bypassing the built-in room mouldings. You're right it makes more sense when you have sections that have to be treated differently.

Thank you Solver. That junction was definitely sloppy on my behalf. I still wasn’t able to fix all of the gaps. It seems X12 does not clean up as nicely for mouldings, regardless.