already knew all that ,all I'm trying to say is an easy way to copy a cad detail for future use, just forgot to say block it first. I have thousands of details in my lib. Never a problem
As with anything, the devil is in the details, that connection should be referenced to a detail, don't worry about getting the model perfect, which cannot be done without spending too much time doing it.
Sorry but I am not sure what you are saying, the walls will always go to the roof plane, depending on the roof plane height, which is the plate height plus the rafter height going straight up
I think Joe has the answer, The automatic label just doesn't work for what I need. thanks for the effort Michael , I tried it your way it just isn't what I need.