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Chopsaw, Yes, I can see that I probably got the directions the wrong way on the gable and eaves. Same technique still applies though. Sometimes I try and do things too fast.

You could use a very thin rectangular frieze and apply the rotated material. This method keeps the frieze attached to the roof plane which can makes things a bit easier than having a seperate ceiling plane, psolid, sofffit...etc.

Have you tried using a 3D Box primitive?

Johnny, A couple of alternatives spring to mind. 1. Create a new line style using text in the style - use Character Map to select a square character. Or, that may not work, try: 2. Use a Distribution Path and distribute a square filled cad polyline block that you saved to the library. This is a Distribution Path with which you have control of spacing, size, rotation, etc.:

That's the whole idea. You should be able to build that roof automatically and then if you make any plan changes, the roof will rebuild to suit.

You should be able to do that as part of the window. Go to the Shutters panel on the window dbx and have a look. PS. Ah, Dermot just beat me to it.

Is there any reason why you are not building that roof automatically? It could save you a lot of work. This took about 3 minutes (although it may not be exactly what you want) and every roof plane joins properly. I was under the impression that the OP wanted a full roof return. Easy either way.

The roofs over the garage are not identical. Check the settings on the general panel and note the differences like the fascia top height. An easy way to fix this is delete one of the roofs and then Copy, Reflect About Object. Select the centre of the garage or closet to copy reflect about. You may have to then Join Roof Planes at the ridge. As soon as both roofs are the same, the roof returns will work. A good way to tell if there are any differences between objects is to multiple select the objects and open the dbx. Any settings that are different will say No Change, or, if it is a check box setting, the check box will have a horizontal line instead of a check mark.

Posting the plan would help

These are in the library.

To do that, I think you would need to have a separate plan for each block (copy, paste, rotate) and then reference each plan in your master plan. I don't know of any way to rotate a reference plan without rotating the original.

Could it be your Arrow Defaults setting?

I am not 100% sure of what you want to do. But with X11, we can now reference external plans in both 2D and 3D. Are you trying to use 1 floor plan and reference it multiple times at different orientations in a master plan?

Doing something else reminded me of this thread and a possible solution for X10. Draw your cad box and attached lines. Select the lines and Open the dbx, on the Arrow panel, check Add Arrow. You can make the arrow as small as you want so that you can't see it. Note that Attach Head and Tail to Other Objects should be checked automatically. Now select and move your cad box and the the end of the lines should stay attached and move with the cad box. You can get the length of the lines from their dbx. Or...., you could convert them into Molding Polylines and add a small simple molding. The Material List will then report the individual and total lengths of all the lines and you can generate a new Material List for each change of geometry. I hope this isn't too late.

Hi Scott, Try opening the Note Schedule Specification dbx>General panel>Object Preview Options>check Scale Images and uncheck Use Plan View Scale. Select the Note Schedule and drag the width of the 2D Symbol column (the one that contains the labels) to change the label size.

Post the plan

You could convert the cad lines to Molding Lines and assign a small, simple molding to them - like a cylinder. The length of molding will report in the Material List.

Select Stretch Cad (Edit>stretch Cad, or from a toolbar button) Draw a selection box around your cad box Drag the selected cad box to relocate it The ends of the lines attached to the cad box will stretch and relocate with the cad box The other ends of the lines will stay where they are Here is a video

Here is another way. Copy all the roofs and move them off the model so you can work on them. Select a roof plane. Convert Selected To Symbol. Rotate the symbol around it's X axis so that it lies flat. Generate a new 2D block for it. Select the cad block in Cad Block Management and Inset into the plan. Explode the cad block. You can now dimension the roof plane with it's true dimensions.

You can get the dimensions of roof plane edges by selecting the roof plane, opening the dbx and looking on the Selected Line panel, noting the Length At Pitch. Of course, this will not dimension it - it will just supply the dimension. There may be another way to dimension actual roof plan sizes in X10 and earlier. There was a tool called Print Model (removed in X11) that would print a .pdf of the unfolded roof planes. If someone knows a way to convert a .pdf to a cad drawing, you could then import the cad drawing and add dimensions. This pic shows the exploded roof .pdf next to the floor plan. Or, maybe one of the ruby gurus can do it with a macro.

Depending on the existing text and what you want to replace it with, would the Find/Replace Text tool do what you want?

Select an object and look on the Edit toolbar for the button with black and white squares and a curved arrow. It is the View Draw Order Edit Tools button.

I would start with a Box, Convert To Symbol. You then have full rotation control in all 3 axis. Takes about 5 seconds.

Bob, Why don't you post the Layout file as well to see if someone can save you a lot of work. Do a File>Backup Entire Project from a layout and that will include the plan, layout and referenced files. I am off to bed now, but will have a look in the morning.

Rob, To clarify. When you do a Backup Entire Project from a layout, this will also save the .plan file, the .layout file and all the referenced files, so maybe no need to do the Backup Entire Plan.