BFogarty Posted March 23, 2014 Share Posted March 23, 2014 Hi there everyone! I know it's Sunday but thing has me scratching my head. Can someone let me know why half the exterior color on this project is Red (which is the correct), and half is black (not right). I've dont the material eyedropper and just tried to paint it, but it won't change. It's like the house has been divided diagonally the way it's off.......Help! Attached is the plan and a pic. Thanks in advance! Bob 186 Cockle Cove Road Chatham.plan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe_Carrick Posted March 23, 2014 Share Posted March 23, 2014 There are 2 possibilities that I can think of: 1. It's just the difference between the direction of the surfaces (shade). 2. If you are using the eyedropper, make sure you don't have "Blend with Material" selected in the toolbar. That's the default OOB and it can cause some confusion. If you don't have "Blend with Material" selected and it still won't change then #1 is the answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Electromen Posted March 23, 2014 Share Posted March 23, 2014 Hi there everyone! I know it's Sunday but thing has me scratching my head. Can someone let me know why half the exterior color on this project is Red (which is the correct), and half is black (not right). I've dont the material eyedropper and just tried to paint it, but it won't change. It's like the house has been divided diagonally the way it's off.......Help! Attached is the plan and a pic. Thanks in advance! Bob Hi Bob, I'm no expert but it looks to me that the sunlight is causing it. Toggle the sunlight off & on and you'll see it all matches. On the full camera view, right click away from the building the "Toggle Sunlight" should be an option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe_Carrick Posted March 23, 2014 Share Posted March 23, 2014 Yep, it's the sun direction. You can check that by changing the time of day CAD>Lines>Sun Angle to later in the afternoon. That will cause the sun to be shining on the side of the building that has the fireplace chimney. Also, turning on Shadows - or doing a "Final View with Shadows" will show how that works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFogarty Posted March 23, 2014 Author Share Posted March 23, 2014 Thanks guys! I had just checked to see if it was the"blend with" and that wasn't it. Also right clicked to toggle sunlight was a no-go. Joe- Wierd that it's the sun direction (but happy to have an answer), I've never had that issue before. Any idea why this would randomly happen? Thanks Joe and Electromen! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFogarty Posted March 23, 2014 Author Share Posted March 23, 2014 UGH! Went into preferences and under preview "show shadows" was not checked. So I checked it just to see what would happened, it added even more shadows. I unchecked it closed the file (didn't save the changes) and the dang things are still around. I'm going to have to poke with this for a bit. So strange that this has never happened before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe_Carrick Posted March 23, 2014 Share Posted March 23, 2014 It's not really "Shadows", it's "Shade". Shadows are what's created because an object is blocking the light (during an eclipse the moon casts a shadow on the earth). Shade is the lack of light striking the surface on the opposite side from the light source. (half of the moon is in shade) In your case, half of the fascia is in shade so it's just a darker version of the fascia color. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Electromen Posted March 24, 2014 Share Posted March 24, 2014 It could be the time of year and the sun angle. Did you set up - Preferences > CAD > Sun Angle? Shadows would be different now than in summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lbuttery Posted March 24, 2014 Share Posted March 24, 2014 It would be nice if OOB Chief would default the sun angle, direction etc to the camera angle we should only have to mess with the sun when we want that realism for basic renders I just want "LET THERE BE LIGHT" ... Lew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Electromen Posted March 24, 2014 Share Posted March 24, 2014 You could always tell Chief that you are at the equator. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lbuttery Posted March 24, 2014 Share Posted March 24, 2014 You could always tell Chief that you are at the equator. yep, but I would prefer that Chief be this way OOB I can't remember if the sun settings are defaults or preferences a newbie or someone who doesn't care about shadows and shade shouldn't have to worry or mess with those settings Lew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glennw Posted March 24, 2014 Share Posted March 24, 2014 Bob, Joe is on the right track - it is shading from the default sun. In a 3D view, go 3D...Lighting...Adjust Lights. Uncheck Default Sunlight. If your scene is too dark, go 3D...3D View Defaults and turn up Daytime Ambient. The problem with turning off the default sun and losing the auto shading is that you get no definition of the same color on different planes. The means that you won't see any edges where 2 planes with the same material meet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glennw Posted March 24, 2014 Share Posted March 24, 2014 It would be nice if OOB Chief would default the sun angle, direction etc to the camera angle we should only have to mess with the sun when we want that realism for basic renders I just want "LET THERE BE LIGHT" ... Lew Lew, Just turn off the Default Sun to get the effect that you want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kbird1 Posted March 24, 2014 Share Posted March 24, 2014 ...............Just turn off the Default Sun to get the effect that you want just playing on a practice play ..... it wont allow me to turn off the default sun ...under adjust lighting and if I toggle it on and off it might as well be night...... I had some issues like this last yr on a dbl bathroom reno , one bathroom lite properly the other looked like 1/2 the bulbs were out ..... M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glennw Posted March 24, 2014 Share Posted March 24, 2014 ...............Just turn off the Default Sun to get the effect that you want just playing on a practice play ..... it wont allow me to turn off the default sun ...under adjust lighting and if I toggle it on and off it might as well be night...... I had some issues like this last yr on a dbl bathroom reno , one bathroom lite properly the other looked like 1/2 the bulbs were out ..... M. Toggle Sunlight DOES toggle between day and night. Toggle Sunlight is not the same as turning off the Default Sun. 2 different settings that give 2 different results. Why can't you turn off the Default Sun? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lbuttery Posted March 24, 2014 Share Posted March 24, 2014 Glen: thanks, I'll try that Lew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glennw Posted March 24, 2014 Share Posted March 24, 2014 Lew, If you toggle off the Default Sun, you can save it to your template plan so that it will be the default. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lbuttery Posted March 24, 2014 Share Posted March 24, 2014 Glenn: will do thanks Lew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kbird1 Posted March 24, 2014 Share Posted March 24, 2014 I am unsure why I can't turn off the default sun , yes I realise it is two different settings we were talking about, if i uncheck the default sun (used in current view) box , the box is automatically rechecked when i quit the dialog box. Is there another setting in Defaults or Preferences perhaps over-riding this setting? M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glennw Posted March 24, 2014 Share Posted March 24, 2014 M, I can't explain why the Default Sun won't stay toggled off. It stays toggled off for me. Can you post a plan in which this happens? Or, try this. Open the Adjust Lights dbx and select the Default Sun. Click Adjust (bottom left corner). Turn the Intensity down to zero. This has the same effect as turning the Default Sun off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kbird1 Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 Thanks Glen , was playing around as I thought perhaps it had something to do with whether I had a backdrop enabled or not but I discovered that it appears if I am inside in 3D I can toggle the lights and when I am outside it has no effect , if I go inside set the light off and go back outside it stays off......at least on this plan.....very weird. M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lbuttery Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 I still think we shouldn't have to mess with these settings unless we want/need to ... I haven't tried Glenn's suggestions yet too busy trying to finalize my Foundation paperwork and get the website ready Lew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kbird1 Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 Yes , i'd be happier too , to just have everything well lit until the Final view or some other point when I really needed it. M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFogarty Posted March 25, 2014 Author Share Posted March 25, 2014 Well....after screwing around with my funky trim for much longer then necessary, I just gave up and put an adjusted color on it. Unfortunately, there was no light/sun/shadow/shade tweaking that did anything. I feel pretty safe saying it was something quirky. The pic below is typical for shadows, no black anything. On to the next! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kbird1 Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 did you try going inside to toggle it and come back out as I did? seemed to work for me but only that way ... M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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