KevinMyers Posted Wednesday at 06:32 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 06:32 PM Hello, I am experiencing a lot of lag/program freezing up when working on plans that include several rooms (with detailed cabinetry, windows, doors, mouldings, appliances, etc.) The roof, framing, and foundations are all default settings though, as we mostly do designs showing only the area being remodeled, and don't typcially do a whole house plan. I'm thinking maybe I need to upgrade my laptop. The one I am using is well above the minimum requirements listed on the Chief website. Does anyone have a laptop they are using that works with no lag? If so, would you care to share the specs? Thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBCooper Posted Wednesday at 06:42 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 06:42 PM Before you run out and buy new hardware, you might want to look here: https://www.chiefarchitect.com/support/article/KB-00521/troubleshooting-slowness-in-chief-architect-projects.html If you do decide on a new machine, I would ignore the min system specs and I would shoot for something that is as good (if not better) than the "recommended" specs: https://www.chiefarchitect.com/products/sysreq.html You might also want to check out the Chief blog article here: https://www.chiefarchitect.com/blog/computer-for-design-and-gaming/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
para-CAD Posted Wednesday at 06:54 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 06:54 PM Does it have to be a laptop? Good gaming rigs seem to work well. FalconNW https://www.falcon-nw.com/laptops/drx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rpadge Posted Thursday at 01:56 AM Share Posted Thursday at 01:56 AM What do you have now? When are you seeing lag currently? Do you use PBR (3d renderings etc)? What’s your budget? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevinMyers Posted Thursday at 01:00 PM Author Share Posted Thursday at 01:00 PM Thanks for the replies! No, it doesn't have to be a laptop, but a laptop is much more convenient. This is what I have now: ROG Strix G713PV AMD Ryzen 9 7945HX with Radeon Graphics (2.50 GHz) 32 GB RAM I typically see lag when I have a 3D view open (or more than one open) and then am making edits on objects. Sometimes the program will freeze up and I'll have to close it. I don't have a budget decided yet.... just need something that works without the lag. So I guess whatever it takes to be able to keep working efficiently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rpadge Posted Thursday at 02:15 PM Share Posted Thursday at 02:15 PM You didnt mention which graphics card, but if I do a search it appears you may have a RTX4060 gpu. Thats not a bad card, so I wonder if you have something else going on. I am assuming these problems happen with all your files, (not just one) so you may try updating the graphics driver. GPU will be one of the most important features to look for. Personally, if I were buying a new laptop, I would look for a 4080, or a 5080 gpu, and maybe drop down to a 5070. I would stay away form any xx60 card (4060, 5060). I have a 4070 and it still performs pretty well. Theres a lot of good laptops with those specs for less than 2K. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevinMyers Posted Thursday at 05:46 PM Author Share Posted Thursday at 05:46 PM Yes, that is the GPU I have -RTX4060. It happens on all the plans that are "bigger". More rooms, more objects, etc. Thank you, appreciate your thoughts! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SHCanada2 Posted Thursday at 07:06 PM Share Posted Thursday at 07:06 PM if you did what DBcooper suggested and it is still slow, I could check on my laptop to see if I get the same issue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevinMyers Posted Friday at 05:26 PM Author Share Posted Friday at 05:26 PM I did do some of the troubleshooting on the article that DBCooper linked. It seems like maybe something I did helped a bit, but there is still definitely lag. Maybe I need to be more aware of how many cameras I have open at once and make sure I close out of the ones I'm not using. It seems like before I would have a hundred things open at once and had no issue. Do any of you run into issues when you import 3D models from manufacturer's websites, such as Subzero? It seems like that could be the issue. Some of them have a lot more "faces" than the basic Chief appliances from the library. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe_Carrick Posted Friday at 06:04 PM Share Posted Friday at 06:04 PM This sounds to me like a problem with updating 3D which is probably set to "Update Allways" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SHCanada2 Posted Friday at 06:07 PM Share Posted Friday at 06:07 PM (edited) I find if a 3D camera is open in a tab, that CA will slow down, even if you are not on that 3D camera tab, Edited Friday at 06:07 PM by SHCanada2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBCooper Posted Friday at 10:29 PM Share Posted Friday at 10:29 PM See this section in the help article: https://www.chiefarchitect.com/support/article/KB-00521/troubleshooting-slowness-in-chief-architect-projects.html#3D Quote Avoid working with multiple 3D camera views open. Every time you make a change to the plan, the program will redraw the entire model. Depending on the complexity of the design, this may take a long time. So yes, having a bunch of 3D camera views open can cause lag. Quote Avoid importing 3D objects from outside sources that have a large number of complex surfaces, as these can significantly slow down camera views. So yes, importing symbols from outside sources that have high surface counts can cause lag. So my guess is that most of the lag you're seeing has to do with what you have in your plan. If you want to see if upgrading your hardware will make a big enough difference to justify the cost, you could post a plan that is slow on your computer and other people can try it and let you know how long it takes on their machines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug_N Posted 4 hours ago Share Posted 4 hours ago Also along with other suggestions, I find that the nVidea studio version of the graphics driver works better for CA than the gaming version. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
para-CAD Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago My new M4 Max ($$) works great. Apple is finally getting into hardware driven PBR. I don't need renders but many seem to. Windows machines are still ahead on that for now, Good luck with your choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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