SHCanada2 Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 FYI: I opened up an existing plan and the dishwasher in cabinet now looks like this: had to go into the dishawsher in the cabinet and offest -6 to give: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe_Carrick Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 I can confirm this, not only for dishwashers but also for wall ovens in cabinets. I had to open the object and set the bounding box y-offset to 0. I've submitted a bug report. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe_Carrick Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 FWIW, in X17 a Dishwasher doesn't insert into a cabinet. It is placed instead of a cabinet and the countertop generates on top of it..That way the Dishwasher is placed correctly in the plan view. But any existing plans brought into X17 at this time will need to be fixed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve_Nyhof Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 Yes, just reported it - I ran into it about an hour ago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve_Nyhof Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 4 hours ago, Joe_Carrick said: FWIW, in X17 a Dishwasher doesn't insert into a cabinet. It is placed instead of a cabinet and the countertop generates on top of it..That way the Dishwasher is placed correctly in the plan view. But any existing plans brought into X17 at this time will need to be fixed. Ah! I see Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve_Nyhof Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 Not working for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe_Carrick Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 2 hours ago, Steve_Nyhof said: Not working for me Steve, You don't even need to regen the 2D. All you need to do is edit the y offset of the bounding box to 0. The other option is to just delete the cabinet and place the dishwasher from the library. X17 symbols work correctly when placed that way. You will have a countertop above the dishwasher - or you can create a custom countertop over all the cabinets and the dishwasher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve_Nyhof Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 16 minutes ago, Joe_Carrick said: Steve, You don't even need to regen the 2D. All you need to do is edit the y offset of the bounding box to 0. The other option is to just delete the cabinet qnd place the dishwasher from the library. X17 symbols work correctly when placed that way. You will have a countertop above the dishwasher - or you can create a custom countertop over all the cabinets and the dishwasher. I'll test it out. I have groupings of kitchen cabinets, one if of a sink and DW and some cabinets, so I will need to fix it up and save it back to the library. Thank you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve_Nyhof Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 That worked... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve_Nyhof Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 All fixed up and back in the library. Now I hope they don't change something that messes it up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe_Carrick Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 1 hour ago, Steve_Nyhof said: All fixed up and back in the library. Now I hope they don't change something that messes it up BTW, You really should modify those Cabinet grouping (Architectural Blocks) so that the Dishwashers are not inserted into a cabinet. X17 treats DWs as being installed between cabinets vs in a cabinet - just like they ar installed/built in a kitchen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SHCanada2 Posted June 26 Author Share Posted June 26 5 hours ago, Designers_Ink said: f you open the cabinet DBX, select the appliance, you can regenerate the 2D and it will show properly again until they get it fixed. I tried that and it did not work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wynsong Posted June 29 Share Posted June 29 How do you get the countertop to appear over the dishwasher? I don't see anything in the DBX that gives that option. Do you have to extend the countertop from the next cabinet? Sure don't remember this from the X17 changes that were discussed as Beta testers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBCooper Posted June 29 Share Posted June 29 The new dishwashers in X17 are designed to be free standing. If you place one next to a base cabinet, or in between two of them, the program should automatically extend the counter top over it. If you are using an old one that is designed to go into a cabinet, I don't think it will work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SHCanada2 Posted June 30 Author Share Posted June 30 4 hours ago, DBCooper said: If you are using an old one that is designed to go into a cabinet, I don't think it will work. it(countertop) worked for me, just doesnt look correct in 3D with the 6in offset, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe_Carrick Posted June 30 Share Posted June 30 Offset should be 0 Bounding Box y should also be 0 However, I find that placing a Dishwasher or Trash Compactor or a Wine Refrigerator on a wall at 45 degrees is pretty much impossible. I will investigate further and report my findings to Chief. I suspect it's a problem with any angle other than 0 and 90. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe_Carrick Posted June 30 Share Posted June 30 X17 has many new options for symbols. For DW's, TC's, and similar appliances the following can be used: Appliances (built-in base cabinets) Appliances (under wall cabinets) Appliances (undercounter) If you have any such items in a "Place Library Object" toolbar button you can find the object in your library and edit the Options to make it function properly. Most - if not all Core, Bonus and Manufacturer Library objects will already have those properly set. You should however check the User Library Objects. Rene - take note 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBCooper Posted June 30 Share Posted June 30 "built-in base cabinets" and "under wall cabinets" have been in the program for a very long time. I can't tell for sure but I don't think any thing has really changed with these settings (other than the bug that Jason posted about). Hopefully they get that fixed quickly so that we don't need to fix up all of our old plans when we bring them into X17. The "undercounter" appliance is new so I don't think this will affect any existing user libraries. It looks like all of the dishwashers in the core libraries have been setup this way. I think this is why they can be placed as free standing objects and will get an automatic counter now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe_Carrick Posted June 30 Share Posted June 30 Most of the Core Library undercounter appliances don't currenty work properly. They don't display flush with the cabinet fronts and many don't add a panel if at the end of a cabinet run. I've reported this to Chief. It appears all of the Manufacturer Libraries are properly updated but some items may have been missed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dermot Posted July 10 Share Posted July 10 This problem should be fixed in the 27.1.1.3 update that has been released today. You can find the update along with the update notes here: https://www.chiefarchitect.com/support/updates.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raltd9245 Posted July 10 Share Posted July 10 On 6/25/2025 at 9:58 PM, SHCanada2 said: FYI: I opened up an existing plan and the dishwasher in cabinet now looks like this: had to go into the dishawsher in the cabinet and offest -6 to give: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raltd9245 Posted July 10 Share Posted July 10 Very Bad Update by Programer who have nothing else useful to do. PLEASE CHANGE IT BACK CHIEF Thankyou Ron Ravenscroft 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dermot Posted July 10 Share Posted July 10 Quote PLEASE CHANGE IT BACK CHIEF Yes Ron, that is why we released the update. This update also has a couple of other important bug fixes. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tundra_dweller Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 5 hours ago, raltd9245 said: Very Bad Update by Programer who have nothing else useful to do. PLEASE CHANGE IT BACK CHIEF Thankyou Ron Ravenscroft With all due respect sir, that's a pretty unfair statement to make about someone's craft & livelihood, presumably based on assumption. I have some frustrations with Chief just like all software but I've never gotten the impression that the people behind it are slacking or not putting the work in to try and improve the software, and I would bet it's quite the opposite situation than what you describe. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JKEdmo Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 2 minutes ago, tundra_dweller said: I've never gotten the impression that the people behind it are slacking or not putting the work in to try and improve the software, I would agree. In fact, I've been pretty impressed at how responsive Chief has been to the forum and also the tech support issues I have sent in. They just released an update to X17 today. I took a look at the change log out of curiosity and it's clear they are hard at work. Jim 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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