Designer1 Posted September 11, 2021 Share Posted September 11, 2021 Does anyone know how to get these two stairs to connect and become one single stair? Im trying to replace the shelf alongside the stair and just want to open the stairs up. Is this possible with chiefs stair tool without using polyline solids etc? I wanting to keep the straight edge and not round or curve the shape of the treads. By the way does anyone know what this stair style is called? Flared staircase?? Thanks in advance! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gelbuilding Posted September 11, 2021 Share Posted September 11, 2021 Checkout this Video https://www.chiefarchitect.com/videos/watch/410/creating-deck-stairs-with-mitered-corners.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kbird1 Posted September 11, 2021 Share Posted September 11, 2021 9 hours ago, Designer1 said: Does anyone know how to get these two stairs to connect and become one single stair? Im trying to replace the shelf alongside the stair and just want to open the stairs up. Is this possible with chiefs stair tool without using polyline solids etc? I wanting to keep the straight edge and not round or curve the shape of the treads. By the way does anyone know what this stair style is called? Flared staircase?? Thanks in advance! I don't think they will wrap sitting out there on there own, they need to be connected to a "wall" ( or railing like a deck edge) plus everything must be identical in both Stairs ie tread size, riser height, top and bottom heights etc. M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkMc Posted September 11, 2021 Share Posted September 11, 2021 10 hours ago, gelbuilding said: Checkout this Video This is second time in a month this has come up and answers have been the same. It's easy to make work with angles 90 and greater which is what everyone shows for the answer. BUT that is not the same as the posted question which has angles less than 90. I can't find a way to make Chief automatically connect stairs set at acute angles. Eric's suggestion to use landings can be a solution, that is make several angled landings. I'd love to see someone post an auto connected stair at an acute angle (I'll buy ya an ice cream Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DzinEye Posted September 11, 2021 Share Posted September 11, 2021 45 minutes ago, MarkMc said: I'd love to see someone post an auto connected stair at an acute angle (I'll buy ya an ice cream Perhaps I'm not understanding ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kbird1 Posted September 11, 2021 Share Posted September 11, 2021 4 hours ago, Kbird1 said: they need to be connected to a "wall" ( and to wrap they need a corner ) Where are the walls needed to make it work in the OPs post? Vanilla please.... * Wrapped stairs will not auto-cut the stairwell hole to the correct shape Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkMc Posted September 11, 2021 Share Posted September 11, 2021 39 minutes ago, DzinEye said: Perhaps I'm not understanding ? My description was wrong backwards I guess, doesn't work on Obtuse angles. But a quick look at the original post.... To me the difference between solutions and what was posted is kinda obvious?. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DzinEye Posted September 11, 2021 Share Posted September 11, 2021 11 minutes ago, MarkMc said: My description was wrong backwards I guess, doesn't work on Obtuse angles. So... no icecream? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kbird1 Posted September 11, 2021 Share Posted September 11, 2021 42 minutes ago, DzinEye said: So... no icecream? I think someone is trying to move the goalposts .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kbird1 Posted September 11, 2021 Share Posted September 11, 2021 56 minutes ago, MarkMc said: To me the difference between solutions and what was posted is kinda obvious?. apparently not........ I'm definitely missing something as I tried to duplicate the OP's "Room" and drawing and it seems to work okay. M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rgardner Posted September 11, 2021 Share Posted September 11, 2021 9 minutes ago, Kbird1 said: apparently not........ I'm definitely missing something as I tried to duplicate the OP's "Room" and drawing and it seems to work okay. M. I’ll bite. Mick, next time you are down in Panama ice cream is on me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkMc Posted September 11, 2021 Share Posted September 11, 2021 19 minutes ago, Kbird1 said: I'm definitely missing something as I tried to duplicate the OP's "Room" and drawing and it seems to work okay. Show me please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DzinEye Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 Like this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rgardner Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 21 minutes ago, MarkMc said: Show me please. 41 minutes ago, Kbird1 said: I'm definitely missing something as I tried to duplicate the OP's "Room" and drawing and it seems to work okay. 2 hours ago, Kbird1 said: * 15 hours ago, Designer1 said: Does anyone know how to get these two stairs to connect and become one single stair? Im trying to replace the shelf alongside the stair and just want to open the stairs up. Is this possible with chiefs stair tool without using polyline solids etc? I wanting to keep the straight edge and not round or curve the shape of the treads. By the way does anyone know what this stair style is called? Flared staircase?? Thanks in advance! I think you are asking a different question Mark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rgardner Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 26 minutes ago, MarkMc said: Show me please. Not positive and not at computer but I think to get this to work you have to match up the closest tread to the upper surface instead of the lowest. Just like you would on the other examples. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kbird1 Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 You do have to give Chief a REAL WORLD CONDITION or it won't work ie: there has to be elevation between the Rooms or Levels / Areas 2 walls --- No 4 walls and a Room - No But open the Room DBX and make it a raised area (35" here) and Boom auto wrap..... if stair edge is < 6" from corner seems to work the same at inside Corners and is easier to do drawing the stairs down ( hold ALT ) from the raised area , similar to if it was a Deck. No Room Def , so no Elevation/RWD = no wrap Room Def = RWD/Elev. = Wrap On but Winders OFF A 2nd Staircase fixes the Winder though it appears the Skirt Trim does not work properly , similar to Landings ( why do landings not have the Skirt ! ) The Plan to play with / Check.............. Stair Wrapping Test.plan Mick. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Designer1 Posted September 12, 2021 Author Share Posted September 12, 2021 Thank you everyone for all the time and effort in helping me with this. I will give these soluations a try as it looks from the pictures and videos you have many solutions. Thanks again so much! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dermot Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 Quote Not positive and not at computer but I think to get this to work you have to match up the closest tread to the upper surface instead of the lowest. Just like you would on the other examples. Ryan is correct. You need to snap the top edge of the stairs to the inside corner, not the bottoms. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kbird1 Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 16 hours ago, rgardner said: to get this to work you have to match up the closest tread to the upper surface instead of the lowest. 9 minutes ago, Dermot said: Ryan is correct. Can you explain that some more please , if the stairs are identical , and they need to be to wrap (afaik) then what is the difference as I didn't have any difficulty doing this, so am curious. M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkMc Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 First I apologize for being confused yesterday, maybe mad cow or was abducted. Or because this one had me going a week or so ago. I just fudged it but tried the suggestions and can't get the stairs to wrap. I've run into this before. Stair issue.zip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dermot Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 I believe you are still trying to snap the bottom corners of the stairs together. You need to snap the top corners together along the deck/landing edge (where my arrow is pointing in the picture I posted above). This will cause to the stairs to overlap but they should then wrap/miter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kbird1 Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 Ok now I get what you were saying earlier..... And Yes, you need to be less than 6" from the (inner) corner of the Walls you want to wrap around with both sets of Stairs.... There are other issues in Mark's (Client's) Plan , the two staircases are not identical, ie Riser and tread sizes etc , but I think something else is up as "The Build" here is really strange, ie: 30" high Level 1 CLG Hgt, and no Foundation etc. M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkMc Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 42 minutes ago, Dermot said: This will cause to the stairs to overlap but they should then wrap/miter. I've snapped them at the bottom, top, every different layer of the wall, copied and pasted, typed in lengths (I believe the ones in plan I posted were not same length?), added foundation and get this every time. Originally I hacked it with landings but at some point lost those due to terrain changes and just left it since they are getting torn out. Figured I'd fix it for final when I had all the terrain infor. I just got it to work by adding a landing at the top of the wall and that works even if I bury the landing in the wall. NOTHING else has worked, or show me? The first one I showed was drawn to a landing for testing but didn't work until I used Kbirds solution of giving the room a definition. So thanks I guess :)\ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kbird1 Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 18 minutes ago, MarkMc said: Kbirds solution of giving the room a definition It is that the Room has a Height reference , not that it has Room Definition that causes the wrap to work as I showed above.... The two stairs are not identical so they won't wrap till they are, I usually copy the 1st one I draw to make sure they are.... There is something else up in this plan though..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gelbuilding Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 Hi Mick, I dont see the mitre connection of the stairs working if the connection of the two stairs are less than 180 degrees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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