4hotshoez Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 I have seen a recent post about this, but I must be missing a step to get the cable to run with the stair slope. Please help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawdzira Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 You made the balusters into cables. You need to make a railing wall at the stairs to have cables on the stairs. This railing wall will sit on top of the stairs in order to get the "Follow Stairs" to work Path for the cables Then I adjusted my stair railing to only have a top rail because the top rail of the cable panel does not look correct cable rail example.zip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4hotshoez Posted November 19, 2014 Author Share Posted November 19, 2014 I think my current set up is goofed up. I have tried a few things but the top floor rail ends up on the first floor and stair rail is not changing. Here is a link, but be warned, the file is very slow. https://www.dropbox.com/s/g00wravs5i9nuec/Pinto04.plan?dl=0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawdzira Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 I adjusted the wall at the base of the stairs. https://www.dropbox.com/sh/essajznv3kmgtu9/AAB-CpnJixE_vk1dshQGQU3Ea?dl=0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4hotshoez Posted November 19, 2014 Author Share Posted November 19, 2014 Which wall at the base of the stairs? There is no "railing" wall of the first floor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMoeDesign Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 Kudo's to Gawdzira for a great illustrated step-by-step explaination. Sometimes I can't follow others descriptions of the solutions with too many abreviations or options to choose without knowing which dbx (dialog box) I need to be in! Thanks for the slow motion version for us "old timers" :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawdzira Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 Look in a perspective camera view of the stairs from floor 1. You will see the railing wall that shows with cable railing infill. If you click with your mouse in plan view at this location it will probably select the stairs first. Hit the tab key to get to the wall below (in selection order). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4hotshoez Posted November 21, 2014 Author Share Posted November 21, 2014 I sorry Alan, I must be dense. I have tried all the railings I can see. If you wouldn't mind, could you point it out in a snap-shot? Thank you for your help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawdzira Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 Here you go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4hotshoez Posted November 21, 2014 Author Share Posted November 21, 2014 Yes. I worked on selecting that one in plan and perspective cycling the Tab key, but I cannot get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommy1 Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 Todd, I haven't looked at the plan but if you're not seeing the wall on the stair, then select the stair and open its dbx and make the stair have a fill of transparent. You need to have your cursor over the wall when you tab to select it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4hotshoez Posted November 21, 2014 Author Share Posted November 21, 2014 There is a partial wall under the stair to enclose it and I tried working with that, but it did not help and even messed up the height. There was an invisible wall to divide rooms, but that has been turned off to avoid being selected. The only thing is the railing itself, which I want to change, but is not selectable apart from the stair. There is a railing on the second floor that comes to the stair that I selected to "follow the stair". Then it ended up on the first floor. This is getting very frustrating as I do not see anything intuitive in this process. I know it can be done, but I am not getting it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawdzira Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 Possibly, with this condition, you will need to fake the lower wall with a poly line solid and keep the upper wall that can be a railing wall as I placed in your plan. I realize this is frustrating since you are transitioning from other software. I do not have time today but I could possibly do an online meeting with you late tonight after the sun goes down in California. I am headed out of my office now to suck some saw dust but if you can meet late (your time) maybe around 9 or 10 pm in Michigan we could solve this pretty quickly. Feel free to call me or email 831-747-4718 alan@lehmandesignstudio.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4hotshoez Posted November 21, 2014 Author Share Posted November 21, 2014 Thank you Alan. I am not available until Monday. Do you have any time then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4hotshoez Posted November 24, 2014 Author Share Posted November 24, 2014 Let me see if we can simplify my problem and what I might be missing by submitting this plan. What is set up wrong to make the cable rail slope with the stair and appear on both floors? StairRailTest.plan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4hotshoez Posted November 24, 2014 Author Share Posted November 24, 2014 As I play with my stair configuration, I am beginning to hate the way Chief attempts to build stairs. If I change one setting, the stair comes apart or jumps sideways or changes width or changes the number of treads or the height of my landing. Now I know my stair might be unusual with two stairs connecting to the same landing, but I am about to build them manually in Sketchup. I don't like it Sam I am! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommy1 Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 Todd, as you're finding, stairs I believe is the weakest part of the program. Someone probably warned you about stairs early on. It's not quite so bad once you figure it out but yes, stairs do jump often when you open them especially when you have multiple stairs and with walls under the stairs. It's most frustrating (putting it mildly). Even the best of Chief users have problems with certain stair designs. We have been asking for better stair control for years but no luck yet. Maybe Alan can give you a hand. I was just working on a plan that had 3 flights of stairs on top of each other with different floor heights on each floor. It was a big time major PIA trying to get it to work. Once I got it, you don't want to select anything for any reason for fear that a section will jump or screw up walls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lbuttery Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 Once I got it, you don't want to select anything for any reason for fear that a section will jump or screw up walls Yep, now get a client request to move the stairwell over X" the smaller X is the harder the task becomes in my simple brain there needs to be a stairwell "framework" that all the pieces and parts get attached to then that framework can be moved around with ease everything attached would go together as a single unit Lew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glennw Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 I think the problem is that you have specified the cable rail in the wrong spot. In the Railing Specification dbx, you have specified the cable rail in Newels/Posts section - this is incorrect. You need to specify the cable rail on the Newels/Balusters panel...Panels and specify Panels on the Rail Style panel. Why do you have your stair rails drawn on the level 2 and displayed on level 1? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4hotshoez Posted November 25, 2014 Author Share Posted November 25, 2014 I think the problem is that you have specified the cable rail in the wrong spot. In the Railing Specification dbx, you have specified the cable rail in Newels/Posts section - this is incorrect. You need to specify the cable rail on the Newels/Balusters panel...Panels and specify Panels on the Rail Style panel. Why do you have your stair rails drawn on the level 2 and displayed on level 1? Thanks for catching that Glenn, That is not usually my problem, but that helped clean things up. So now my horizontal rails are working, but I am still not able to get the cable to show properly on the stair. StairRailTest.plan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommy1 Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 I am still not able to get the cable to show properly on the stair. I have been waiting for that comment. This is why I do all my cable railing manually as well as my posts(newels). Yes it's a little time consuming to do it manually but it's the only way I can get it to do the way I want (or at least make it fairly close). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glennw Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 You need to draw a railing wall and drag it under the stairs and check Follow Stairs. This should get you started. StairRailTest BACK.zip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACADuser Posted December 1, 2014 Share Posted December 1, 2014 Perhaps someone can help with this one. The 1st floor has a landing at the front door, an elevated foyer. I broke the stair flights into two stair to be able to display the upper half as dashed and transparent. The 1st & 2nd floor stair do not align in length as the floor heights are different, this is intentional. All was OK until I tried to make all railings horizontal wire style. The problem I have is the 2nd floor stair railing & cleaning uo the angle on the 1st floor stair railing. 1st AveSouth2.zip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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