WildcatFury Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 How do I get the plan view to show the right size rough openings for windows and doors, so that the dimensioning is correct for ICF walls? Right now they are showing based on the window and window frame size but not RO size to show the required wood bucking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShaneK Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 change your framing settings, add 1.5" to all sides and allows for window bucks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildcatFury Posted November 30, 2020 Author Share Posted November 30, 2020 Thanks Shane, I have done that actually allowing 2" for 1.5" bucking and space to plumb and square. Just an FYI my schedules show the proper RO sizes, just not seeing it in the plan view openings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joey_martin Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 9 minutes ago, WildcatFury said: just not seeing it in the plan view openings. Do you have your dimension defaults set up to find them? ICF walls, which I don't use often, are probably considered concrete walls and as such you will need to make sure that check box is checked to show that extra opening in the plan view as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildcatFury Posted December 2, 2020 Author Share Posted December 2, 2020 The openings (gaps) are showing in the walls but the opening size does not reflect the actual rough opening size. Example: I have a window in the wall that actual sizes (from window manufacturer) are 37 5/8" x 56 7/8". In the framing specification I have called out for 2" rough opening on all sides. I also marked the "Add for Concrete Cutout" 2" each side and checked show in plan, but plan is only showing a gap in the wall at 37 3/4" as where it should be 41 5/8". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildcatFury Posted December 2, 2020 Author Share Posted December 2, 2020 The screen shots below show the window opening in the plan view with a point to point dimension, The other shots reflect my data entry in the window specification dialog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneDavis Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 Chief doesn't represent the gap in the 2D plan view. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildcatFury Posted December 2, 2020 Author Share Posted December 2, 2020 Ok Thanks for the feedback. I see how the dimension represents the RO and not the opening in the wall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buildwithicf Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 I have figured out how to measure the RO correct on the 2D side of plans, but it is not showing correctly on the window schedule (Top & Bottom). For EX: This is a 48x53 window and I have added 2" all around to accommodate for window buck (ICF structure as well), but the top and bottom on the schedule does not accommodate for that. That makes building the home a bit confusing... Is there anyway to fix this to show accurately for ICF? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtldesigns Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 3 hours ago, buildwithicf said: schedule does not accommodate for that. I couldn't get that to show correctly either. So since I am dimensioning the RO in the plan view, I just removed the RO from the schedule. As far as the 2" for your window buck, is that 1.5" for the buck frame and 1/2" for window gap? Just curious.. that's where I am struggling a little, making sure the RO is big enough but not to big to defeat the purpose of the ICF wall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JacobB Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 3 hours ago, buildwithicf said: but it is not showing correctly on the window schedule (Top & Bottom) The Top and Bottom columns are the elevation of the window top and bottom. If you want the top of the rough opening you can use the Header Height column. Note: The Header Height column was added in X15. Note: The Top and Bottom elevations are from the subfloor, while the Header Height is from the specified elevation reference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtldesigns Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 1 hour ago, JacobB said: The Top and Bottom elevations are from the subfloor, while the Header Height is from the specified elevation reference Thanks Jacob. What do you mean by "specified elevation reference"? Are these based off of zero? The schedule you show is a little confusing at first glance. The second window shows the top of the window at 80" but the header height at 202 1/4".. I currently don't show my RO on the schedule, but if I did, 9 times out of 10, the contractor doesn't look at the schedule to see the height anyways to care, he's looking at the plan. I think I will show what you noted as a self check PLUS dimension window RO on my my plan views and details. Good to know I can show these heights though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JacobB Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 18 hours ago, mtldesigns said: What do you mean by "specified elevation reference"? 18 hours ago, mtldesigns said: The schedule you show is a little confusing at first glance. The second window shows the top of the window at 80" but the header height at 202 1/4".. Here's the plan. Notice that each of the three windows have a different elevation reference, and one of them is slightly higher than the others. WindowScheduleX15.plan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
para-CAD Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 Dimension to the center of all openings in ICF and then, on the job site, follow the vendor’s literature as to how to buck out the opening in the blocks. Logixs has changed their method from pressure treated 2x12s to their own system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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