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welcome: if you can post the plan the replies will be better focused Lew

Perry: yep, that is the modeless feature that would be VERY nice for Chief to have AFTER they "fix" most of the "work-arounds" Lew

instead the whole dbx could be a constant open window on the side like the library browser and all the "workarounds" would still be "workarounds" you can add "pretty little flowers" and "new car smells" and they would still be there I agree - modeless would be wonderful I liked it when programming VB6 and VB.net etc a decade ago Lew

Doug: Please "fix" all the "work-arounds" first Lew

I don't think we should argue the correct order Lew Larry: whose arguing ? I'm stating MY opinion, just as you stated yours sheesh, I get tired of this s**t Lew

Dennis: the new forum has an issue when replying if you click to close to the top when starting a reply it activates on the formatting tools I've had italics and underline and strike-thru etc I've learned to click way down towards the bottom Lew

Cicadas are bugs I've thought about sautéing them in a garlic butter but in the end couldn't do it some have covered them in fancy chocolate to make them more appealing but in the end - they are still bugs !!! get rid of the bugs first - then go fancy Lew

Then learn about Annotation Sets. Absolutely key to using Chief effectively Larry: layers and layersets yes... annosets can wait until its time to create cd's on layout many other things to learn first, such as roofs, terrain, etc Lew

probably best to contact CA's tech support Lew

take a house - any house preferably your own or a family or friends that you have constant access to and model it - completely by the time you are done you will have a very good understanding of how Chief works learning "features" in a void - doesn't work for me Lew

maybe the layer was created in layout ??? Lew

Johnny: the GUI has "nothing" to do with all the "workarounds" old or new GUI - - it is still a "workaround" "workarounds" are proof that Chief can do the task they just need "proper" programming to become "features" instead of "workarounds" Lew

given a super fancy GUI if I have to continue dealing with all the "workarounds" then I would continue to be "annoyed" fix the "broken" first then go fancy Lew

try this site: http://www.chiefsymbols.com/ especially for the AEC details I bought these back in 2005 not sure when last updated - so verify Lew

I would vote to fix all the things that need "fixin" then go modeless Lew

Johnny: call CA sales to discuss Lew

Lew did not answer the question Scott: my method prevents the need for the question Lew

Todd: I do a double "save as" - very quick, very easy master plan and layout are always the same name thus they stayed linked together I'll do a "save as" with date and time and LBX6 added for the backup/archive then I do a "save as" with the master names master naming scheme: 123_MAIN.plan and 123_MAIN.LAYOUT backup/archive: 123_MAIN_141215_1725_LBX6.plan 123_MAIN_141215_1725_LBX6.layout I add my initials when I work on the files my partner adds his when he works on the files we used to use subs for some tasks and they would use their initials Lew

very few chiefers take polls Lew

Jay: just making a point that CA doesn't let us know what their priorities are and how they can waste resources by not consulting the "gurus" this why some requests go undone for far too long so my comment wasn't aimed at an X3 issue - but an example so CA makes major improvements to mono slabs and from the postings on this forum they still don't have it right CA should identify and consult SME's on the various features/topics Lew

David: It is also knowing all/most of the "work-arounds" for solutions that are NOT covered in the manual and can only be learned by true experimentation or via sharing on this forum if a user tried to do only what is covered in the manual and videos they would be "unable" to do some of the tasks this forum is invaluable for sharing those "secrets" Lew

However, CA can also put time and resources into a disaster like the library system in X3 that then had to be ripped out and replaced in X4 if they communicated with an inner circle of chiefers when setting priorities and deciding on solutions they might be able to avoid such mistakes I have liked every release since ver 9.5 lament that some of my favorites are still missing and enjoy what is given and start the ask/demand cycle all over again Lew

Wow, I didn't know that CA had pulled it I wonder why ??? they were used when exporting .DWG files to AutoCAD etc did AutoCAD stop using them ??? Michael: no attachment Lew

Chief already has the AIA naming standard available I don't remember the details of how to activate it but it's there for use Lew

profile.plan is what comes with Chief OOB there is also profilem.plan for metric Lew