GeneDavis

Thanks!

Rene, your short circuit logo made me thing of something from very long ago, Max Headroom. Bzzzzzt!

I did some fiddling to get a plot plan on my layout at a proper scale. I had to relearn how to display line length and bearings the way I wanted, and made a change to get decimal feet as the length display. I must have made something global or something. What a mess! Now my text dialog is giving me decimal feet for text height whether in layout or plan. Get me back to fractional inches, please!

Framers taught me the term "heelstand" for that. And, point of interest, how heelstand differs one plane to the one meeting at the corner in an irregular ("bastard") hip condition, when you want a common fascia height.

I have clients for which I do their plans, which are doing all their cabinet buys the low cost unbundled virtual way. They use, or I do it for them, Thermwood's eCabinets software to "build" all the cabinets for a job, email the job file to a CNC cut shop for the entire carcase order, buy all the fronts, trim, drawerboxes, etc., from Walzcraft in LaCrosse, WI, and the hardware packages from someone like CabinetParts.com. Always frameless, and top end details like Blumotion Tandem slides, softclose doors, RevAShelf goodies inside plus Hafele, and more. It's KD cabinetry, and most jobs get the carcases built from palletized parts, somewhere near the end of day one on job. From there, hanging and installing is like any purchased cab package. Wherever we have a base run butting to a tall cabinet, we step the tall out 2 inches so the baserun countertop resolves nicely into the tall side. We don't make a 26-deep tall, and instead just "make" the cab with one extended side, an extra 2 inches rearward. That side is a "finished end" so no exposed fasteners (we do all joinery with a setup called "lock tenon" which is m&t plus zipscrews between), with the finished side fixed with pocket screws. The setting in eCabs to extend the side rearward is a whole lot easier thing to do than the Chief operation. Pics attached. Look at the various tabs in the carcase spec dialog that permits addressing each part: left end, right end, top, deck, back, etc. Thought this might be of interest, and I am going to make a suggestion in that subforum for this feature. Where is the toekick, one might ask? We use Blum or Peter Maier or Camar plastic leg levelers under all base cabinets and talls, so the boxes sit on legs, and the toeboards snap with clips onto the front legs.

The missing info was this: that part has to be converted to a symbol of a specific kind. I saved it as a door/drawerfront, and now the build is good.

Here is my cabinet in a plan file all by itself, the symbol for the extended side in front of it. Looks in 3D just like what you did, the symbol sticking through the floor finish by the 4 inches I offset the z origin. What is the trick in getting the cab to build with this backside insertion going up to the top of the cab? Cab won't build.plan

Thanks to all for the contributions! I have my trusty Sketchup Make 2017, the last one free and downloadable to one's hard drive, and won't ever have a need for the Pro version. This makes it so I can not download most all the content on the 3D Warehouse. So thanks to Mick and others, I now have the rock wall symbol. Most of the walls built here use stones about the size of a mini-fridge, all handled by artists with excavators and claws, so I took the symbol and resized it x4 and it gives me the results I need to show the concept to the client.

Please attach pics directly, not as downloads. We want to see your pics, but not have them on our hard drives.

I would not be trying this in 3D Chief unless I had seen cabinet guru Mark do it. But I am unable to reproduce his magic, even after looking carefully at the file he uploaded here with the solution right in it. I want to extend the left side toward the rear by 2 inches. I have a tall 86 inch cabinet, faceframe style with 3/4" stiles, and made a solid with a 3/4 x 2 3/4" rectangular profile and 86 inch height, same as cabinet, then saved it as a symbol, a simple fixture. Seems to be what Mark did in his file. I turn the cab around to see the back in the cab build dialog, manipulating the faces, etc., and go with the horizontal build to do, in this order, L to R, a big wide blank area, a separation of 3/4", and then do the inserted door thing, inserting my symbol, giving it a 3/4" width, and making sure the stiles on this face are set to 0 on the R where I want this ear. Try as I might, I cannot get the part to reach up to the 86 inch height, the top. See the pic attached. In Mark's file, the symbol for his extension is the cabinet height, same as me, but he has changed the origin to be up from bottom 4", and set a single stretch plan maybe 8 inches up at the top. I tried that. Still short by the 4 inches.

I draw for guys building in this rocky mountain terrain and there are always boulder walls. How is this best done? I've been leaving it off plans, but thought it might dress up the cartoons a little if some rocks were shown. Artistry with John Deere and Kubota and the rocks are free, usually.

A roof plane with its baseline NOT on a wall line will not display a plate height in its dialog box. How were your various roof planes generated?

So I copied the island with its top and pasted it into a blank plan. Didn't know about the new waterfall c'top thing, so did that. Tres cool. Also realized to dress it right and make for good door swing at the one end, I added flush-to-front fillers at each end, and base fillers have a toe that is controllable, so it made my toekick thing go away. But without the filler adds, the toekick needs a solution. Island toe issue.plan

Might as well ask both in same thread. Here is an elevation of an island group of base cabs. I want the toekick to run full end to end. I cannot see a toekick option in settings to make it do so. Help please. As can be seen in the 2D, I did solids for the waterfall ends of the countertop. I'd sure like to miter the parts as the stone guy will do. How?

So here I am reading this and wonder, if I have a window that is a fixed rectangle 24" w x 48" h and another with a dogear arch top but same 24" w x 48" h, they will both report to schedule as the rectangle? No they won't. I just placed another window in the plan with an arch top, full round, and while it is overall 6' x 6' size, it reports separately with image. Why won't the match roof traps do same? I think it is a bug. Not really a bug, but something that needs to be fixed. What would you do as a workaround? OOOPS! I see, says the blind man! Add a column for SHAPE and problem solved! Thanks.

I have this in a real plan I need to finish and even when stripped is too big to post here zipped. But thankfully (??) it reproduces in a simple small test file. A 6' x 6' fixed window is in one wall, and on an adjacent wall is one, also fixed, also 6' x 6'. but its top edge is set to match roof pitch above. On the schedule, Chief generates them both as a square, not one square and one trap. Bugaroo? Window schedule problem.plan

You cannot adequately control windows meeting at a corner in Chief. A while back I had a job for which we wanted to have a 4x4 corner post in 2x6 framed walls, and have windows "meet" in corners at the 4x4. Chief would not do it then, and it was a lot of Xs ago. Chief still won't do it. I ended up doing CAD patches to do the ConDocs and 3D solids to dress the 3D renderings.

Monsieur Rabbit shows how with cabinets.

I am certainly not doing the download of that update until this is fixed.

And while at it, explain to me why there is no longer a GENERAL section of the Material List.

Thanks, @glennw!! I didn't know one could add a ridge cap into a valley. I am not able to use Chief right now, so briefly, what are the moves to put one in a valley? I have two standing seam jobs that would look better thus.

I belong to a club of about a thousand members. At any event or meeting, we all wear our name tag badges around our necks on nice logo (it's a car club) lanyards. It is a great big group, much larger than my Rotary club meet, which is nametags also. It is simple courtesy to wear the tags and badges, even though most of us know most all the members. It is a courtesy here to do the same thing. Your sig which gives very important information relating to software version and hardware on which it runs is essential to knowing how to respond to a question or problem or issue. So be courteous. Attached is a view of a plan with valleys in the roofscape. I pulled back the planes at one of the valleys, six inches exactly. I could make a copy of the building right alongside this one, auto roof it, edit the roofs away to leave just two 6" valley planes (the "valley patch"), retexture them as galvanized steel, and then copy and paste this into the roof with the gap valley. So this was a courtesy, and we'd like to see you back sometime, all badged up.

How might we do this? I know we can export a 3D framing model view as a viewer file, but I'd like to be able to do a walkthrough, with pauses at key places. I've got people too lazy to figure out how to use the viewer, but who can sit and watch a video.

From the info at the website, each chair is a 190 MB 3DS object. That is a size that will dwarf most complete plans. You sure you want to decorate this way? Your plan will bloat to an unmanageable size, and your screen response time will allow you long naps.

Roof over for sure, and dial than sunlight way way down. Watch a couple of Scott Harris's webinar videos about rendering and lighting.