Chopsaw

It will auto generate if you rotate but not when you resize. That is what the controversy was about.

It would seem that this does work in X7 and you can also select and move a bearing line which will also work if it is in the center of the beam.

Yes mostly as far as I know. However I still do not quite understand the difference between the two previous screen shots I posted. The only thing I can think of is that maybe chief put that one in the library with a custom 2D cad block for some reason, but there may be more to it than that. It would be great to get a comment from @Adrean or someone who really knows their symbols.

Yes that seems to be the current situation in X10. It is a little counter intuitive and suggestions have been made. Hope they listened for X11. Keep us informed with your progress as that looks to be quite a complicated layout.

Alan, Did you regenerate the 2D block ? Also what are your actual required dimensions and maybe we can find a way around the issues. Which panels need to be stretched and how much.

Yes that is the solution. Bearing line on each side of the beam.

Mark's method would be the technically correct version. However if you are not worried about a material list and just want the correct look in 2D you could use a solid fill in the beam and move it to the top display group. Perry I tried that as well but could not get a flush result. Lap and break as well as span through or over was not a problem.

Humm..... I see the problem, in fact you don't even need to make a copy as once the 2D block is regenerated there is an issue. Will need to think about that one for a while.

Mine seems to work fine just as is. Gives the same bounding box as your third image of the Sizing DBX.

You can lock layers that you create or stock layers in ALDO ( Active Layer Display Options ) Or even unlock layers that are locked by default for special manual operations. Yes there are other locking options hidden throughout the program.

Ok but that moves the text as well as the fill. It does not work properly over or under another filled object. Did I find another inconsistency for the suggestion forum ?

You could but they would need to be symbols rather than terrain features. Best to do it the way Glenn does. Sidewalks work great as 3D plot lines. I sometimes even put in survey stakes.

Do we not have a way of getting transparent text for angle dimensions and keep it live ? I was thought I had done it before.

Alan, Turn on your Origin Marker in the Symbol DBX. The 48 and 56" values should be negative. Then manually regenerate the 2D block to fix the door issue. This should also give you a proper bounding box. Also not sure you need a stretch Zone for this. You could just have a -24 or -48 stretch plane in the Y direction.

Ok great, that would be nice if it was automatic but hitting tab a second time seems to work fine. Thanks.

Go as far as you can with presets and then turn off Auto Rebuild and continue and there should not be any surprises. You could work with two roof plane layers and lock the ones that you have finalized if you are worried about selecting or dragging one by mistake.

Ok I see that it is working for X and Y inputs. However It looks like you should be using the Polar setting for inputting random angles. Otherwise you would need to set the X and Y coordinates of the new end point and not just the length at an established angle. Does your setup highlight the Y value when you start to draw a line horizontally?

I think I remember getting into a mess like that with a project and ended up being able to make it work by recreating the symbol. Not sure if the one in the library is corrupted or if you can only stretch one direction at a time.

Yes I have noticed that but not sent it in. If you are not using the "Polar" option as is shown in Mick's post chief often does not highlight the correct plane for direct entry. X seems to be the default and Y does not register. Is that what you are seeing ? I think you may be correct that is used to work in previous versions. If you can confirm that I would be glad to send it in.

An Illustration would help here but it seems that subtraction would not be necessary as you could just draw that in elevation view with a polyline solid. Something like this I am assuming.

It seems you do have some structural issues to deal with as Robert and Joey have indicated. There does however seem to be a slight alignment issue in x10 with the door jamb and door where the default settings will show a little strip framing outside the door jamb. If you adjust the door thickness it does not seem to have any effect on the door but rather the jamb is what changes. But as Joey says that is all wrong anyway, it just makes it look a little better from the outside.

Can you convert to solids in Interiors ?

What version are you running ? I think I posted for X10 above.

It really depends on what you need to accomplish. If you need to offset it from the hand rail just a bit you can use the Newels/Posts Offset setting with a negative or positive value. If you need to move the whole railing then it is usually best to add a layer to the railing wall definition with an invisible Opening (no material) Material. Other methods can be used depending on the situation. Sometimes just a screen shot of where you are at and a clipped image or as built photo of what it needs to be does wonders for those trying to help.

Stephan, Sounds like a great solution but I am curious as to what type of computer system you are running that would allow you to be able to do that with Chief. I am not so sure my system would handle it unless I was extremely careful with the included items in the plan and materials used. Assuming Alan's system performance would be quite similar to mine.