Alaskan_Son

The problem is likely because of your wall definition. Your Siding-4, Exist Wall Type has the siding layer defined as Framing. Depending on whether or not you've built framing and whether or not you have framing displayed in that particular layer set, you may or may not see any siding.

It looks like you probably removed the problematic element from your stripped down plan. My guess is that you had an invisible wall or room divider directly above that line and that one side or the other was in a different Framing Group (Structure tab).

By the way, the Object Eyedropper does include Fill Style Information as well. Check out not only the Fill options but also the Pattern options.

We have the aptly named Fill Style Eyedropper.

...and on the specifics of the plan file and how things are modeled. A person could also patch things using solids and can use molding polylines instead of room moldings. Like I mentioned in another post on this subject, there are a lot of ways to deal with these types of situations but they almost always depend on the specifics of the actual plan and 3D model.

No. Not just for rendering. You can also generate dropped ceiling framing using the Finish Layers.

I haven’t watched any of the videos posted in this thread and I haven’t seen the plan for suitability, but has anyone mentioned using the ceiling finish definition to create a dropped ceiling?

Can you possibly post the plan?

Like I mentioned in my post: If you could post the plan in your other thread, that would be best.

i use it quite a bit. It works great but my one major beef with it is that you can't toggle through the clipboard history with the keyboard (at least I haven't found a way side from switching the active window and activating a different item from the history (a very complicated keyboard procedure). As it stands right now, there seems to be no way of switching the keyboard focus from the current dialog box to the clipboard, so we're limited to selecting from the history with the mouse. Again, it works great but usually requires mouse intervention.

Most people just need to update their templates. The macro Chief provides in the OOB X14 template plan includes everything. Here's what I get for a base cabinet using the OOB %object_properties% macro in an OOB X14 template plan: angle_front_left_depth ----------------------------------- 0 in ----------------------------------- Measurement angle_front_right_depth ---------------------------------- 0 in ----------------------------------- Measurement automatic_countertop ------------------------------------- --------------------------------------- NVPublisher area ------------------------------------------------- 4.693606 sq ft ------------------------- Measurement backsplash_length ------------------------------------ 0 in ----------------------------------- Measurement cabinet ---------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------- NVPublisher SEE ABOVE ---------------------------------------- --------------------------------------- front_cap_length ------------------------------------- 103.356194 in -------------------------- Measurement hole_area -------------------------------------------- 0 sq ft -------------------------------- Measurement material_data ---------------------------------------- --------------------------------------- NVPublisher description -------------------------------------- "Black-Granite" ------------------------ String formatted_size ----------------------------------- "" ------------------------------------- String manufacturer ------------------------------------- "" ------------------------------------- String quantity ----------------------------------------- 4.693606 sq ft ------------------------- Measurement source_description ------------------------------- "Countertop" --------------------------- String automatic_description ------------------------------------ "base cabinet" ------------------------- String automatic_label ------------------------------------------ "B24R" --------------------------------- String back_side ------------------------------------------------ --------------------------------------- NVPublisher actual_type ------------------------------------------ finished ------------------------------- Symbol is_default ------------------------------------------- true ----------------------------------- TrueClass items ------------------------------------------------ size = 0 ------------------------------- Collection resolved_type ---------------------------------------- auto_finished -------------------------- Symbol background_color_from_background ------------------------- true ----------------------------------- TrueClass background_color_from_layer ------------------------------ false ---------------------------------- FalseClass backsplash_area_below ------------------------------------ 0 sq ft -------------------------------- Measurement backsplash_height ---------------------------------------- 3 in ----------------------------------- Measurement backsplash_height_is_default ----------------------------- true ----------------------------------- TrueClass backsplash_material -------------------------------------- --------------------------------------- NVPublisher id --------------------------------------------------- 73 ------------------------------------- Integer is_default ------------------------------------------- true ----------------------------------- TrueClass name ------------------------------------------------- "White Tile" --------------------------- String backsplash_thickness ------------------------------------- 0.5 in --------------------------------- Measurement backsplash_thickness_is_default -------------------------- true ----------------------------------- TrueClass bevel_inset ---------------------------------------------- 0 in ----------------------------------- Measurement bow_depth ------------------------------------------------ 0 in ----------------------------------- Measurement box_construction ----------------------------------------- frameless ------------------------------ Symbol box_construction_name ------------------------------------ "Frameless" ---------------------------- String box_finish_description ----------------------------------- "" ------------------------------------- String box_interior_material ------------------------------------ --------------------------------------- NVPublisher id --------------------------------------------------- 72 ------------------------------------- Integer is_default ------------------------------------------- true ----------------------------------- TrueClass name ------------------------------------------------- "Color - Snow White" ------------------- String box_material --------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------- NVPublisher id --------------------------------------------------- 72 ------------------------------------- Integer is_default ------------------------------------------- true ----------------------------------- TrueClass name ------------------------------------------------- "Color - Snow White" ------------------- String box_material_description --------------------------------- "Color - Snow White" ------------------- String build_bottom --------------------------------------------- auto ----------------------------------- Symbol build_top ------------------------------------------------ auto ----------------------------------- Symbol cabinet_corner_type -------------------------------------- none ----------------------------------- Symbol cabinet_corner_width ------------------------------------- 0 in ----------------------------------- Measurement cabinet_corner_width_is_default -------------------------- true ----------------------------------- TrueClass category ------------------------------------------------- standard ------------------------------- Symbol comment -------------------------------------------------- "" ------------------------------------- String component_code ------------------------------------------- "" ------------------------------------- String corner_pilaster_depth ------------------------------------ 0 in ----------------------------------- Measurement corner_pilaster_description ------------------------------ "" ------------------------------------- String counter_material ----------------------------------------- --------------------------------------- NVPublisher id --------------------------------------------------- 65 ------------------------------------- Integer is_default ------------------------------------------- true ----------------------------------- TrueClass name ------------------------------------------------- "Black-Granite" ------------------------ String countertop_actual_overhang_back -------------------------- 1 in ----------------------------------- Measurement countertop_actual_overhang_front ------------------------- 1 in ----------------------------------- Measurement countertop_actual_overhang_left -------------------------- 1 in ----------------------------------- Measurement countertop_actual_overhang_right ------------------------- 1 in ----------------------------------- Measurement countertop_corner_type ----------------------------------- rounded -------------------------------- Symbol countertop_corner_width ---------------------------------- 0.375 in ------------------------------- Measurement countertop_corner_width_is_default ----------------------- true ----------------------------------- TrueClass countertop_overhang -------------------------------------- 1 in ----------------------------------- Measurement countertop_overhang_back --------------------------------- 1 in ----------------------------------- Measurement countertop_overhang_back_is_default ---------------------- true ----------------------------------- TrueClass countertop_overhang_front -------------------------------- 1 in ----------------------------------- Measurement countertop_overhang_front_is_default --------------------- true ----------------------------------- TrueClass countertop_overhang_is_default --------------------------- true ----------------------------------- TrueClass countertop_overhang_is_uniform --------------------------- true ----------------------------------- TrueClass countertop_overhang_left --------------------------------- 1 in ----------------------------------- Measurement countertop_overhang_left_is_default ---------------------- true ----------------------------------- TrueClass countertop_overhang_right -------------------------------- 1 in ----------------------------------- Measurement countertop_overhang_right_is_default --------------------- true ----------------------------------- TrueClass countertop_thickness ------------------------------------- 1.5 in --------------------------------- Measurement countertop_thickness_is_default -------------------------- true ----------------------------------- TrueClass custom_fields -------------------------------------------- {} ------------------------------------- Hash custom_pattern_scale ------------------------------------- 1.0 ------------------------------------ Float depth ---------------------------------------------------- 24 in ---------------------------------- Measurement description ---------------------------------------------- "base cabinet" -------------- String door_drawer_material ------------------------------------- --------------------------------------- NVPublisher id --------------------------------------------------- 72 ------------------------------------- Integer is_default ------------------------------------------- true ----------------------------------- TrueClass name ------------------------------------------------- "Color - Snow White" ------------------- String door_drawer_overlay_name --------------------------------- "Full" --------------------------------- String door_handle_down_from_top -------------------------------- 1.375 in ------------------------------- Measurement door_handle_down_from_top_is_default --------------------- true ----------------------------------- TrueClass door_handle_in_from_edge --------------------------------- 1.375 in ------------------------------- Measurement door_handle_in_from_edge_is_default ---------------------- true ----------------------------------- TrueClass door_hinge_up_down_from_edge ----------------------------- 3 in ----------------------------------- Measurement door_hinge_up_down_from_edge_is_default ------------------ true ----------------------------------- TrueClass door_swing ----------------------------------------------- "R" ------------------------------------ String drawer_handle_distance_from_top -------------------------- 0 in ----------------------------------- Measurement drawer_handle_horizontal_position ------------------------ use_default ---------------------------- Symbol drawer_handle_in_from_edge ------------------------------- 0 in ----------------------------------- Measurement drawer_handle_vertical_position -------------------------- use_default ---------------------------- Symbol drawing_group -------------------------------------------- default:_31_-_base_cabinet ------------- Symbol elevation_reference -------------------------------------- from_floor_finish ---------------------- Symbol elevation_reference_to_bottom ---------------------------- 0 in ----------------------------------- Measurement fill_color_from_background ------------------------------- false ---------------------------------- FalseClass fill_color_from_layer ------------------------------------ false ---------------------------------- FalseClass fill_line_weight ----------------------------------------- 1 -------------------------------------- Integer filler_back_left_size ------------------------------------ "" ------------------------------------- String filler_back_right_size ----------------------------------- "" ------------------------------------- String filler_front_left_size ----------------------------------- "" ------------------------------------- String filler_front_right_size ---------------------------------- "" ------------------------------------- String floor_number --------------------------------------------- 1 -------------------------------------- Integer foot_always_present -------------------------------------- false ---------------------------------- FalseClass foot_depth_offset ---------------------------------------- 0 in ----------------------------------- Measurement foot_depth_offset_is_default ----------------------------- true ----------------------------------- TrueClass foot_description ----------------------------------------- "" ------------------------------------- String foot_retain_toekick -------------------------------------- false ---------------------------------- FalseClass foot_size ------------------------------------------------ "" ------------------------------------- String foot_stretch_to_fit -------------------------------------- false ---------------------------------- FalseClass foot_width_offset ---------------------------------------- 0 in ----------------------------------- Measurement foot_width_offset_is_default ----------------------------- true ----------------------------------- TrueClass formatted_size ------------------------------------------- "24"x24"x36"" -------------------------- String framed_separation ---------------------------------------- 0.75 in -------------------------------- Measurement framed_separation_is_default ----------------------------- true ----------------------------------- TrueClass front_pilaster_depth ------------------------------------- 0 in ----------------------------------- Measurement front_pilaster_description ------------------------------- "" ------------------------------------- String front_side ----------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------- NVPublisher actual_type ------------------------------------------ has_face ------------------------------- Symbol is_default ------------------------------------------- false ---------------------------------- FalseClass items ------------------------------------------------ size = 5 ------------------------------- Collection [0] ---------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------- NVPublisher appliance ------------------------------------ NIL ------------------------------------ NilClass height --------------------------------------- 0.75 in -------------------------------- Measurement is_door -------------------------------------- false ---------------------------------- FalseClass is_drawer ------------------------------------ false ---------------------------------- FalseClass type ----------------------------------------- separation ----------------------------- Symbol width ---------------------------------------- 22.5 in -------------------------------- Measurement [1] ---------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------- NVPublisher appliance ------------------------------------ NIL ------------------------------------ NilClass height --------------------------------------- 5 in ----------------------------------- Measurement is_door -------------------------------------- false ---------------------------------- FalseClass is_drawer ------------------------------------ true ----------------------------------- TrueClass type ----------------------------------------- drawer --------------------------------- Symbol width ---------------------------------------- 22.5 in -------------------------------- Measurement [2] ---------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------- NVPublisher appliance ------------------------------------ NIL ------------------------------------ NilClass height --------------------------------------- 0.75 in -------------------------------- Measurement is_door -------------------------------------- false ---------------------------------- FalseClass is_drawer ------------------------------------ false ---------------------------------- FalseClass type ----------------------------------------- separation ----------------------------- Symbol width ---------------------------------------- 22.5 in -------------------------------- Measurement [3] ---------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------- NVPublisher appliance ------------------------------------ NIL ------------------------------------ NilClass height --------------------------------------- 23.25 in ------------------------------- Measurement is_door -------------------------------------- true ----------------------------------- TrueClass is_drawer ------------------------------------ false ---------------------------------- FalseClass type ----------------------------------------- door_-_right --------------------------- Symbol width ---------------------------------------- 22.5 in -------------------------------- Measurement [4] ---------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------- NVPublisher appliance ------------------------------------ NIL ------------------------------------ NilClass height --------------------------------------- 0.75 in -------------------------------- Measurement is_door -------------------------------------- false ---------------------------------- FalseClass is_drawer ------------------------------------ false ---------------------------------- FalseClass type ----------------------------------------- separation ----------------------------- Symbol width ---------------------------------------- 22.5 in -------------------------------- Measurement resolved_type ---------------------------------------- has_face ------------------------------- Symbol full_overlay_reveal -------------------------------------- 0.0625 in ------------------------------ Measurement full_overlay_reveal_is_default --------------------------- true ----------------------------------- TrueClass glass_material ------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------- NVPublisher id --------------------------------------------------- 127 ------------------------------------ Integer is_default ------------------------------------------- true ----------------------------------- TrueClass name ------------------------------------------------- "Glass Standard" ---------------------- String hardware_material ---------------------------------------- --------------------------------------- NVPublisher id --------------------------------------------------- 71 ------------------------------------- Integer is_default ------------------------------------------- true ----------------------------------- TrueClass name ------------------------------------------------- "Aluminum Brushed" --------------------- String has_appliance_or_sink ------------------------------------ false ---------------------------------- FalseClass has_backsplash ------------------------------------------- false ---------------------------------- FalseClass has_backsplash_at_sides ---------------------------------- false ---------------------------------- FalseClass has_box_material ----------------------------------------- true ----------------------------------- TrueClass has_closed_toe ------------------------------------------- false ---------------------------------- FalseClass has_countertop ------------------------------------------- true ----------------------------------- TrueClass has_custom_countertop ------------------------------------ false ---------------------------------- FalseClass has_cutting_board ---------------------------------------- false ---------------------------------- FalseClass has_diagonal_face ---------------------------------------- true ----------------------------------- TrueClass has_doors ------------------------------------------------ true ----------------------------------- TrueClass has_double_drawers --------------------------------------- false ---------------------------------- FalseClass has_finish_material -------------------------------------- false ---------------------------------- FalseClass has_flat_back -------------------------------------------- true ----------------------------------- TrueClass has_flat_sides ------------------------------------------- true ----------------------------------- TrueClass has_glass_doors ------------------------------------------ false ---------------------------------- FalseClass has_left_extended_stile ---------------------------------- false ---------------------------------- FalseClass has_oven ------------------------------------------------- false ---------------------------------- FalseClass has_right_extended_stile --------------------------------- false ---------------------------------- FalseClass has_stile_between_double_doors --------------------------- false ---------------------------------- FalseClass has_toekick ---------------------------------------------- true ----------------------------------- TrueClass has_undercounter_appliance ------------------------------- false ---------------------------------- FalseClass height --------------------------------------------------- 36 in ---------------------------------- Measurement include_in_schedule -------------------------------------- true ----------------------------------- TrueClass inserts -------------------------------------------------- size = 0 ------------------------------- Collection inset_overlay_clearance ---------------------------------- 0.0625 in ------------------------------ Measurement inset_overlay_clearance_is_default ----------------------- true ----------------------------------- TrueClass is_angled_front_cabinet ---------------------------------- false ---------------------------------- FalseClass is_bow_front_cabinet ------------------------------------- false ---------------------------------- FalseClass is_corner_cabinet ---------------------------------------- false ---------------------------------- FalseClass is_lazy_susan -------------------------------------------- false ---------------------------------- FalseClass label ---------------------------------------------------- "B24R" --------------------------------- String layer ---------------------------------------------------- cabinets,__base ------------------------ Symbol layer_is_default ----------------------------------------- true ----------------------------------- TrueClass layer_line_color ----------------------------------------- 1751754495 ----------------------------- Integer layer_line_style ----------------------------------------- 2 -------------------------------------- Integer layer_line_weight ---------------------------------------- 25 ------------------------------------- Integer layer_set ------------------------------------------------ " Working Layer Set" ------------------- String layer_text_style ----------------------------------------- "Default Text Style" ------------------- String left_extended_stile_size --------------------------------- "" ------------------------------------- String left_side ------------------------------------------------ --------------------------------------- NVPublisher actual_type ------------------------------------------ finished ------------------------------- Symbol is_default ------------------------------------------- true ----------------------------------- TrueClass items ------------------------------------------------ size = 0 ------------------------------- Collection resolved_type ---------------------------------------- auto_finished -------------------------- Symbol manufacturer --------------------------------------------- "" ------------------------------------- String max_left_extended_stile ---------------------------------- 0 in ----------------------------------- Measurement max_right_extended_stile --------------------------------- 0 in ----------------------------------- Measurement moldings ------------------------------------------------- size = 0 ------------------------------- Collection num_corner_pilasters ------------------------------------- 0 -------------------------------------- Integer num_doors ------------------------------------------------ 1 -------------------------------------- Integer num_drawer_glides ---------------------------------------- 2 -------------------------------------- Integer num_drawers ---------------------------------------------- 1 -------------------------------------- Integer num_feet ------------------------------------------------- 0 -------------------------------------- Integer num_front_pilasters -------------------------------------- 0 -------------------------------------- Integer num_openings --------------------------------------------- 2 -------------------------------------- Integer panels --------------------------------------------------- size = 2 ------------------------------- Collection [0] -------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------- NVPublisher cabinet ------------------------------------------ --------------------------------------- NVPublisher SEE ABOVE ------------------------------------ --------------------------------------- description -------------------------------------- "door - Framed Panel" ------------------ String formatted_size ----------------------------------- "23 7/8"x24 5/16"" --------------------- String hinge -------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------- NVPublisher cabinet -------------------------------------- --------------------------------------- NVPublisher SEE ABOVE -------------------------------- --------------------------------------- count ---------------------------------------- 2 -------------------------------------- Integer description ---------------------------------- "hidden hinge" ------------------------- String formatted_size ------------------------------- "" ------------------------------------- String pull --------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------- NVPublisher cabinet -------------------------------------- --------------------------------------- NVPublisher SEE ABOVE -------------------------------- --------------------------------------- count ---------------------------------------- 1 -------------------------------------- Integer description ---------------------------------- "knob" --------------------------------- String formatted_size ------------------------------- "1"" ----------------------------------- String [1] -------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------- NVPublisher cabinet ------------------------------------------ --------------------------------------- NVPublisher SEE ABOVE ------------------------------------ --------------------------------------- description -------------------------------------- "drawer" ------------------------------- String formatted_size ----------------------------------- "23 7/8"x6 1/16"" ---------------------- String hinge -------------------------------------------- NIL ------------------------------------ NilClass pull --------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------- NVPublisher cabinet -------------------------------------- --------------------------------------- NVPublisher SEE ABOVE -------------------------------- --------------------------------------- count ---------------------------------------- 1 -------------------------------------- Integer description ---------------------------------- "knob" --------------------------------- String formatted_size ------------------------------- "1"" ----------------------------------- String pattern_angle -------------------------------------------- 0.0 ------------------------------------ Float pattern_color_from_background ---------------------------- false ---------------------------------- FalseClass pattern_color_from_layer --------------------------------- false ---------------------------------- FalseClass pattern_horizontal_spacing ------------------------------- 2 in ----------------------------------- Measurement pattern_vertical_spacing --------------------------------- 2 in ----------------------------------- Measurement provides_back_left_filler -------------------------------- false ---------------------------------- FalseClass provides_back_right_filler ------------------------------- false ---------------------------------- FalseClass provides_front_left_filler ------------------------------- false ---------------------------------- FalseClass provides_front_right_filler ------------------------------ false ---------------------------------- FalseClass right_extended_stile_size -------------------------------- "" ------------------------------------- String right_side ----------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------- NVPublisher actual_type ------------------------------------------ finished ------------------------------- Symbol is_default ------------------------------------------- true ----------------------------------- TrueClass items ------------------------------------------------ size = 0 ------------------------------- Collection resolved_type ---------------------------------------- auto_finished -------------------------- Symbol room ----------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------- NVPublisher background_color_from_background --------------------- true ----------------------------------- TrueClass background_color_from_layer -------------------------- false ---------------------------------- FalseClass base_moldings ---------------------------------------- size = 1 ------------------------------- Collection [0] ---------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------- NVPublisher accounting_code ------------------------------ "5200 - Interior trim material" -------- String angle ---------------------------------------- 0.0 ------------------------------------ Float comment -------------------------------------- "" ------------------------------------- String component_code ------------------------------- "" ------------------------------------- String component_moldings --------------------------- size = 0 ------------------------------- Collection custom_fields -------------------------------- {} ------------------------------------- Hash depth ---------------------------------------- 0 in ----------------------------------- Measurement description ---------------------------------- "base molding: Default Base Molding" --- String formatted_size ------------------------------- "5/8"x3 1/2"" -------------------------- String height --------------------------------------- 3.5 in --------------------------------- Measurement length --------------------------------------- 512 in --------------------------------- Measurement manufacturer --------------------------------- "" ------------------------------------- String material_list_category ----------------------- "Interior Trim" ------------------------ String room ----------------------------------------- --------------------------------------- NVPublisher SEE ABOVE -------------------------------- --------------------------------------- supplier ------------------------------------- "" ------------------------------------- String width ---------------------------------------- 0.625 in ------------------------------- Measurement cantilever_underside_material ------------------------ --------------------------------------- NVPublisher id ----------------------------------------------- 11 ------------------------------------- Integer is_default --------------------------------------- true ----------------------------------- TrueClass name --------------------------------------------- "Color - Bone" ------------------------- String ceiling_elevation ------------------------------------ 109.125 in ----------------------------- Measurement ceiling_finish_layers -------------------------------- size = 2 ------------------------------- Collection [0] ---------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------- NVPublisher accounting_code ------------------------------ "5100 - Drywall" ----------------------- String area ----------------------------------------- 114 sq ft ------------------------------ Measurement material_data -------------------------------- --------------------------------------- NVPublisher description ------------------------------ "Drywall" ------------------------------ String formatted_size --------------------------- "48"x96"x5/8"" ------------------------- String manufacturer ----------------------------- "" ------------------------------------- String quantity --------------------------------- 3.75 ----------------------------------- Measurement source_description ----------------------- "" ------------------------------------- String material_list_category ----------------------- "Wall Board" --------------------------- String owner ---------------------------------------- --------------------------------------- NVPublisher SEE ABOVE -------------------------------- --------------------------------------- thickness ------------------------------------ 0.625 in ------------------------------- Measurement [1] ---------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------- NVPublisher accounting_code ------------------------------ "5100 - Drywall" ----------------------- String area ----------------------------------------- 112.215278 sq ft ----------------------- Measurement material_data -------------------------------- --------------------------------------- NVPublisher description ------------------------------ "Color - Bone" ------------------------- String formatted_size --------------------------- "" ------------------------------------- String manufacturer ----------------------------- "" ------------------------------------- String quantity --------------------------------- 112.215278 sq ft ----------------------- Measurement source_description ----------------------- "" ------------------------------------- String material_list_category ----------------------- "Wall Board" --------------------------- String owner ---------------------------------------- --------------------------------------- NVPublisher SEE ABOVE -------------------------------- --------------------------------------- thickness ------------------------------------ 0 in ----------------------------------- Measurement ceiling_finish_name ---------------------------------- "Color - Bone" ------------------------- String ceiling_insulation ----------------------------------- --------------------------------------- NVPublisher area --------------------------------------------- 112.215278 sq ft ----------------------- Measurement cavity_r_value ----------------------------------- 0.0 ------------------------------------ Float continuous_r_value ------------------------------- 0.0 ------------------------------------ Float depth -------------------------------------------- 12 in ---------------------------------- Measurement description -------------------------------------- "ceiling insulation" ------------------- String formatted_size ----------------------------------- "12"x16"x48" batts" -------------------- String length ------------------------------------------- 48 in ---------------------------------- Measurement num_batts ---------------------------------------- 21.25 ---------------------------------- Measurement owner -------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------- NVPublisher SEE ABOVE ------------------------------------ --------------------------------------- width -------------------------------------------- 16 in ---------------------------------- Measurement ceiling_platform_layers ------------------------------ size = 1 ------------------------------- Collection [0] ---------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------- NVPublisher accounting_code ------------------------------ "3110 - Lumber 1st package" ------------ String area ----------------------------------------- 134.548611 sq ft ----------------------- Measurement material_data -------------------------------- --------------------------------------- NVPublisher description ------------------------------ "Fir Framing" -------------------------- String formatted_size --------------------------- "" ------------------------------------- String manufacturer ----------------------------- "" ------------------------------------- String quantity --------------------------------- 0 -------------------------------------- Measurement source_description ----------------------- "" ------------------------------------- String rebar_length --------------------------------- 0 in ----------------------------------- Measurement rebar_size ----------------------------------- 0 -------------------------------------- Integer room ----------------------------------------- --------------------------------------- NVPublisher SEE ABOVE -------------------------------- --------------------------------------- steel_mesh_area ------------------------------ 0 sq ft -------------------------------- Measurement thickness ------------------------------------ 5.5 in --------------------------------- Measurement ceiling_thermal_envelope_area ------------------------ 112.215278 sq ft ----------------------- Measurement chair_rail_moldings ---------------------------------- size = 0 ------------------------------- Collection conditioned ------------------------------------------ true ----------------------------------- TrueClass conditioned_is_set_to_use_default_value -------------- true ----------------------------------- TrueClass crown_moldings --------------------------------------- size = 0 ------------------------------- Collection custom_pattern_scale --------------------------------- 1.0 ------------------------------------ Float dimensions ------------------------------------------- "11'-11" x 9'-5"" ---------------------- String drawing_group ---------------------------------------- default:_36_-_room_fill ---------------- Symbol fill_color_from_background --------------------------- false ---------------------------------- FalseClass fill_color_from_layer -------------------------------- true ----------------------------------- TrueClass fill_line_weight ------------------------------------- 1 -------------------------------------- Integer finished_ceiling_elevation --------------------------- 108.5 in ------------------------------- Measurement finished_floor_elevation ----------------------------- 0.875 in ------------------------------- Measurement floor_ceiling_group ---------------------------------- 1 -------------------------------------- Integer floor_elevation -------------------------------------- 0 in ----------------------------------- Measurement floor_finish_layers ---------------------------------- size = 2 ------------------------------- Collection [0] ---------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------- NVPublisher accounting_code ------------------------------ "Assorted Floors" ---------------------- String area ----------------------------------------- 112.215278 sq ft ----------------------- Measurement material_data -------------------------------- --------------------------------------- NVPublisher description ------------------------------ "Maple 5" Plank - Natural" ------------- String formatted_size --------------------------- "5" wide" ------------------------------ String manufacturer ----------------------------- "" ------------------------------------- String quantity --------------------------------- 3231.8 in ------------------------------ Measurement source_description ----------------------- "" ------------------------------------- String material_list_category ----------------------- "Flooring" ----------------------------- String owner ---------------------------------------- --------------------------------------- NVPublisher SEE ABOVE -------------------------------- --------------------------------------- thickness ------------------------------------ 0.75 in -------------------------------- Measurement [1] ---------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------- NVPublisher accounting_code ------------------------------ "Assorted Floors" ---------------------- String area ----------------------------------------- 112.215278 sq ft ----------------------- Measurement material_data -------------------------------- --------------------------------------- NVPublisher description ------------------------------ "Foam Underlayment" -------------------- String formatted_size --------------------------- "1/8" thick" --------------------------- String manufacturer ----------------------------- "" ------------------------------------- String quantity --------------------------------- 112.215278 sq ft ----------------------- Measurement source_description ----------------------- "" ------------------------------------- String material_list_category ----------------------- "Flooring" ----------------------------- String owner ---------------------------------------- --------------------------------------- NVPublisher SEE ABOVE -------------------------------- --------------------------------------- thickness ------------------------------------ 0.125 in ------------------------------- Measurement floor_finish_name ------------------------------------ "Maple 5" Plank - Natural" ------------- String floor_insulation ------------------------------------- --------------------------------------- NVPublisher area --------------------------------------------- 112.215278 sq ft ----------------------- Measurement cavity_r_value ----------------------------------- 0.0 ------------------------------------ Float continuous_r_value ------------------------------- 0.0 ------------------------------------ Float depth -------------------------------------------- 12 in ---------------------------------- Measurement description -------------------------------------- "floor insulation" --------------------- String formatted_size ----------------------------------- "12"x16"x48" batts" -------------------- String length ------------------------------------------- 48 in ---------------------------------- Measurement num_batts ---------------------------------------- 21.25 ---------------------------------- Measurement owner -------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------- NVPublisher SEE ABOVE ------------------------------------ --------------------------------------- width -------------------------------------------- 16 in ---------------------------------- Measurement floor_number ----------------------------------------- 1 -------------------------------------- Integer floor_platform_layers -------------------------------- size = 2 ------------------------------- Collection [0] ---------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------- NVPublisher accounting_code ------------------------------ "3110 - Lumber 1st package" ------------ String area ----------------------------------------- 134.548611 sq ft ----------------------- Measurement material_data -------------------------------- --------------------------------------- NVPublisher description ------------------------------ "OSB-Hrz" ------------------------------ String formatted_size --------------------------- "48"x96"x3/4"" ------------------------- String manufacturer ----------------------------- "" ------------------------------------- String quantity --------------------------------- 4.25 ----------------------------------- Measurement source_description ----------------------- "" ------------------------------------- String rebar_length --------------------------------- 0 in ----------------------------------- Measurement rebar_size ----------------------------------- 0 -------------------------------------- Integer room ----------------------------------------- --------------------------------------- NVPublisher SEE ABOVE -------------------------------- --------------------------------------- steel_mesh_area ------------------------------ 0 sq ft -------------------------------- Measurement thickness ------------------------------------ 0.75 in -------------------------------- Measurement [1] ---------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------- NVPublisher accounting_code ------------------------------ "3110 - Lumber 1st package" ------------ String area ----------------------------------------- 134.548611 sq ft ----------------------- Measurement material_data -------------------------------- --------------------------------------- NVPublisher description ------------------------------ "Fir Framing" -------------------------- String formatted_size --------------------------- "" ------------------------------------- String manufacturer ----------------------------- "" ------------------------------------- String quantity --------------------------------- 0 -------------------------------------- Measurement source_description ----------------------- "" ------------------------------------- String rebar_length --------------------------------- 0 in ----------------------------------- Measurement rebar_size ----------------------------------- 0 -------------------------------------- Integer room ----------------------------------------- --------------------------------------- NVPublisher SEE ABOVE -------------------------------- --------------------------------------- steel_mesh_area ------------------------------ 0 sq ft -------------------------------- Measurement thickness ------------------------------------ 11.875 in ------------------------------ Measurement floor_thermal_envelope_area -------------------------- 112.215278 sq ft ----------------------- Measurement function --------------------------------------------- "Unspecified" -------------------------- String has_ceiling ------------------------------------------ true ----------------------------------- TrueClass has_floor -------------------------------------------- true ----------------------------------- TrueClass has_floor_supplied_by_room_below --------------------- false ---------------------------------- FalseClass has_monolithic_slab ---------------------------------- false ---------------------------------- FalseClass has_raised_floor ------------------------------------- false ---------------------------------- FalseClass has_roof --------------------------------------------- true ----------------------------------- TrueClass has_shelf_ceiling ------------------------------------ false ---------------------------------- FalseClass include_in_living_area ------------------------------- true ----------------------------------- TrueClass include_in_living_area_is_set_to_use_default_value --- true ----------------------------------- TrueClass include_in_schedule ---------------------------------- true ----------------------------------- TrueClass internal_area ---------------------------------------- 112 sq ft ------------------------------ Measurement layer ------------------------------------------------ rooms ---------------------------------- Symbol layer_is_default ------------------------------------- true ----------------------------------- TrueClass layer_line_color ------------------------------------- 2151678207 ----------------------------- Integer layer_line_style ------------------------------------- 0 -------------------------------------- Integer layer_line_weight ------------------------------------ 18 ------------------------------------- Integer layer_set -------------------------------------------- " Working Layer Set" ------------------- String layer_text_style ------------------------------------- "Default Text Style" ------------------- String moldings --------------------------------------------- size = 1 ------------------------------- Collection [0] ---------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------- NVPublisher accounting_code ------------------------------ "5200 - Interior trim material" -------- String angle ---------------------------------------- 0.0 ------------------------------------ Float comment -------------------------------------- "" ------------------------------------- String component_code ------------------------------- "" ------------------------------------- String component_moldings --------------------------- size = 0 ------------------------------- Collection custom_fields -------------------------------- {} ------------------------------------- Hash depth ---------------------------------------- 0 in ----------------------------------- Measurement description ---------------------------------- "base molding: Default Base Molding" --- String formatted_size ------------------------------- "5/8"x3 1/2"" -------------------------- String height --------------------------------------- 3.5 in --------------------------------- Measurement length --------------------------------------- 512 in --------------------------------- Measurement manufacturer --------------------------------- "" ------------------------------------- String material_list_category ----------------------- "Interior Trim" ------------------------ String room ----------------------------------------- --------------------------------------- NVPublisher SEE ABOVE -------------------------------- --------------------------------------- supplier ------------------------------------- "" ------------------------------------- String width ---------------------------------------- 0.625 in ------------------------------- Measurement name ------------------------------------------------- "Unspecified" -------------------------- String pattern_angle ---------------------------------------- 0.0 ------------------------------------ Float pattern_color_from_background ------------------------ false ---------------------------------- FalseClass pattern_color_from_layer ----------------------------- true ----------------------------------- TrueClass pattern_horizontal_spacing --------------------------- 8 in ----------------------------------- Measurement pattern_vertical_spacing ----------------------------- 8 in ----------------------------------- Measurement perimeter -------------------------------------------- 512 in --------------------------------- Measurement schedule_number -------------------------------------- "" ------------------------------------- String show_room_label -------------------------------------- false ---------------------------------- FalseClass simple_schedule_number ------------------------------- "" ------------------------------------- String standard_area ---------------------------------------- 135 sq ft ------------------------------ Measurement stem_wall_height ------------------------------------- 37.5 in -------------------------------- Measurement stem_wall_top_elevation ------------------------------ 0 in ----------------------------------- Measurement transparent_pattern ---------------------------------- false ---------------------------------- FalseClass type_name -------------------------------------------- "Unspecified" -------------------------- String use_type_for_name ------------------------------------ true ----------------------------------- TrueClass volume ----------------------------------------------- 1006.430773 cu ft ---------------------- Measurement wall_coverings --------------------------------------- size = 0 ------------------------------- Collection wall_material ---------------------------------------- --------------------------------------- NVPublisher id ----------------------------------------------- -32768 --------------------------------- Integer is_default --------------------------------------- true ----------------------------------- TrueClass name --------------------------------------------- "Default" ------------------------------ String schedule_number ------------------------------------------ "" ------------------------------------- String shelf_material ------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------- NVPublisher id --------------------------------------------------- 72 ------------------------------------- Integer is_default ------------------------------------------- true ----------------------------------- TrueClass name ------------------------------------------------- "Color - Snow White" ------------------- String simple_schedule_number ----------------------------------- "" ------------------------------------- String soffit_accounting_code ----------------------------------- "5200 - Interior trim material" -------- String soffit_material_data ------------------------------------- NIL ------------------------------------ NilClass soffit_material_list_category ---------------------------- "Interior Trim" ------------------------ String supplier ------------------------------------------------- "" ------------------------------------- String suppress_label ------------------------------------------- false ---------------------------------- FalseClass toekick_depth -------------------------------------------- 3 in ----------------------------------- Measurement toekick_depth_is_default --------------------------------- true ----------------------------------- TrueClass toekick_height ------------------------------------------- 4 in ----------------------------------- Measurement toekick_height_is_default -------------------------------- true ----------------------------------- TrueClass toekick_material ----------------------------------------- --------------------------------------- NVPublisher id --------------------------------------------------- 72 ------------------------------------- Integer is_default ------------------------------------------- true ----------------------------------- TrueClass name ------------------------------------------------- "Color - Snow White" ------------------- String traditional_overlay_overlap ------------------------------ 0.375 in ------------------------------- Measurement traditional_overlay_overlap_is_default ------------------- true ----------------------------------- TrueClass transparent_pattern -------------------------------------- false ---------------------------------- FalseClass treat_as_undercounter_appliance -------------------------- false ---------------------------------- FalseClass type ----------------------------------------------------- base_cabinet --------------------------- Symbol width ---------------------------------------------------- 24 in ---------------------------------- Measurement

Its not a Mac vs. PC thing. Its based on what macros you have in your current plan. Chief's latest object properties macro is %object_properties% and reports not only standard name:value pairs but also expanded NVPublisher name:value pairs. It also works in both owner and referenced contexts. Many people are using old templates with old macros that used different naming convention and/or had different functionalities. In addition, some people have both Chief's macros and macros written by other users (which again might be named differently and have different behaviors).

I think what you're doing is presenting an XY Problem (click to read up on it). That is you're needing to solve problem X and you're trying to do so by asking how to achieve Y. The problem is that Y is simply an inappropriate solution. In other words, you're asking the wrong question. The simple fact is that Chief works entirely different than the software you're currently using. I suggest you stop trying to use the same approaches you used with your previous software. You're just wasting a lot of time and energy. The solution you're looking for simply doesn't exist in Chief because its a different tool set built around on an entirely different paradigm. You'll just need to adopt a different system. Here's a little additional food for thought: One of the main benefits of using a true 3D modeling application like Chief Architect is that you can model your structures in 3 dimensions exactly like they'll be built in real life. That means when you generate a cross section or take an elevation view, its going to display exactly what you've modeled and not a generic representation. Some of the process takes a bit more work, but the payoff can be enormous. Model the building once and you can generate as many views and details as you want at any angle and from any desired reference point. You can analyze all sorts of things that would otherwise be impossible to analyze. By trying to generate a bunch of generic details and sections you're largely defeating the purpose of using a 3d modeling software and in doing so missing out on many if not all of the real benefits.

My previously posted workaround solution works with this plan as well:

This is EXACTLY what I suspect is happening as well.

No

Not sure about ascii but I believe the the JavaScript key code is 93. You can also try Shift+F10 or Control+Shift+F10. I can't make either of those work on my system. but I also have a menu key, so I'm not sure if that's affecting things or not.

I use Jitbit Macro Recorder in which I can set the delay between keystrokes to whatever I want. A sequence of 20 or 30 keystrokes can be carried out in a split second. This of course isn't always the case. Some operations require setting longer delays, but if you're currently limited to the built in delays, then I would suggest you consider using a different macro recording software. I'm sure you could still assign the macros to you radial menus as well.

If you're using a macro/keystroke recorder and intending to share with other users, I would suggest the exact approach I spelled out. The one you seem to be suggesting is not very dependable. It's the approach I originally started with, but I found it only consistently works if the library browser is its own window. If the Library Browser is docked along with ALDO and/or the Project Browser like many of us do, and something other than the Library Browser was the last activated window, then that window is the one that stay active. The Library browser will close and reopen, but you won't be able to get to it.

It's possible, but I have NOT found a way that doesn't involve closing and re-opening the Library Browser. I posted the most effective sequence that I've come up with here:

I always forget about that feature. Pretty cool, but I'm always curious how many people actually made use of it.

Look closer at the image I posted.

There are 2 different approaches you could potentially take for this one. Scale down ALL your various components before you start modeling (walls, roof structure, floor structure, window sizes, door sizes, molding sizes, etc.) and actually build the model to true scale. Create your own Units and use those instead. You can do this by going into Preferences>General>Unit Conversions and then adding a new Unit. The unit might look like this...

That just looks like an Opening to me. See if maybe a Doorway or Pass-Through does what you're looking for.