Archnot-Boltz

I'm using a 32" with a mild curve beside a 16" Lenova laptop with an I9 and an RTX4070 8gig. Back in the "old days" V-8 and V-9 etc. There was a toilet icon that automatically took you to the generic plumbing fixtures library. The electrical library was similar and actually had easier to find fixtures. Do you actually use all of those icons. You seem like a short-cut key kind of guy? I'm solely icon driven.

Holy crap, that's a tool bar from hell (or heaven!), wow! What do you have, a 72" monitor? Actually, I'd like to get the plumbing stuff back on my extended toolbar like I used to have on the pre-X versions. Now, I'm motivated.-bb

No problem switching back & forth from X16 to x17Beta for me. I just made sure to turn off the new Project Management mode/feature and don't save while looking at any ongoing x16 projects.-bb

So far, I'm more than a bit underwhelmed. Excuse me for not controlling my excitement.-bB Was expecting and hoping for more items like the new ability to display stairs on the floor above. The dishwasher thing is good but not life altering, The angle snaps 90d & 45d are (I guess) the Ortho Lock many of us have been asking for, for many years (thanks). 3d editing of molding polylines is cool (especially if it works in conjunction with 3d dimensioning) but I'd still like to see auto/user definable downspouts. Text annotation on 3d views eliminates having to notate on the layout sheets. I guess we are a rendering program for kitchen designers? Still waiting for deck stair framing but do like that we finally got the sill plate out of the foundation wall height specification. Still don't have the ability to put lites in a standard parametric garage door............ -bB

Mine downloaded the file, which I can open but my setup wizard is hung up while "Removing Backup Files".

When are you going to post the list of new features? And where's the beef (seems like there isn't much happening that would allow me to make my drawings more accurate from a builders perspective)?-BB

Then after downloading the library, I couldn't find the library but found the original library that I was searching under Iron Columns after having searched "Wrought Iron Columns"!

Didn't that irritate the heck out of you (long time power user) that you couldn't simply/easily find this column in a logical place in the program? I had to google the topic to find this post. Otherwise, I was just swimming in the wind.

Having good luck with our two i9s with 8 gig NVIDIA rtx's thus far. Just wish we'd gotten the 16 or 17 instead of the 15". My daughter has a 17" i7 Lenova that she's had for five years doing digital arts (3d modeling and game art and is still kicking with only 6 gig NVIDIA GTX). I still wish they put DVD drives in them! bb

Like my co-worker (who now primarily uses Softplan), I was completely underwhelmed by yesterday's X16 features presentation. Kudos for finally giving us snap points on windows and doors, more control on railings and newels but still didn't go far enough. 3d dimensions seem like a decent way to clarify a detail for a builder or client and of course if you're modeling in 3d. Nothing said about being able to make your deck stair railings align with your deck railings, no secondary graspable handrails (see Softplan) etc. Oh, and the corner shelves thing is nice but would rather have my exterior wall intersections improved and ability to lock the intersections and framing. One day I'll get off my brain and make an analog list. Until then, I guess I'll shut up and wait for the beta to download and hope that there are some hidden gems not covered. -bb

I stand corrected. Thanks DB and I'm glad the bears didn't eat you!

My co-worker switched to SP two years ago and thinks that SP is oriented more towards builder details and what it takes to design and draft a set of construction documents. SP (he tells me daily) focuses on fixing things that a builder/designer needs while Chief lets us languish with no Framing for Stairs and Landings. SP gives you automatic joist hanger placement. SP gives you automatic secondary graspable railings that are required by the IRC. and I could go on. From my own perspective and initial use of SP back in 1997 when it was still a DOS program (and the first CAD software that I could wrap my architectural designer head around), SP was a much more mature program than Chief '97 which was 3D Home Architect on steroids and seemed initially, a bit "Mickey Mouse" in comparison. Ultimately, purchasing Chief came down to a better brain to hand interface that felt more like drawing than CAD drafting combined with a great intro price deal of $699.00 (can't remember if more or less) vs about $1900.00 for SP which I couldn't afford in 1998. I've always thought that Chief and Softplan should be bought out by a savy tech company with deep pockets like a Google (except they dropped the ball with Sketchup) and marry SP to Chief and Sketchup and have a badarse baby. But that ain't happening in my lifetime (unless Elon Musk is listening!?). To finish, I'm wondering if X-16 has addressed any of these glaringly missing construction drawing tools that SP has been implementing? Or did we just get another Grand Cabinet Library?! -BB

Is it me or does it seem anything but intuitive to not just be able to create and modify a schedule and have it automatically able to be send to layout? Create CAD Detail from View is a convoluted process by not just sending a PRE-Cropped View and having to delete all the superfluous crap in order to have a clean detail. I had to look up this string on Google in order to remember how to send a schedule to layout. Fortunately, I've been able to do additions and such without schedules but indure the pain everytime I need to include them in my drawings.

Seems like a suggestions request item to me. Maybe it's been addressed in X16! bb

Hey Dermot, I just edited my post, there's no issue with the Mod-Bit roof material pattern but the issue does occur with the CAD lines that I had evidentally drawn manually but forgot.. I couldn't get your phone tech (Devin) to get the same results so I'm sending the plan in with "Attention Devin".- Thanks BB