Alaskan_Son

I definitely agree with Joey. Yes, it would help drain water at least a little, but not much at all, and it results in 2 more problem valleys where stuff can build up and cause problems (not to mention a nightmare for the roofer to detail properly). It actually is a lot different than a normal valley by the way because normal valleys have one pitch directing water onto another perpendicular pitch whereas your example has one pitch directing water onto another parallel pitch. Truth is that it has no benefit whatsoever in that scenario. The only time I would build that particular type of cricket or saddle would be behind another obstruction (to direct the flow of water around it).

It seems like you fellas might be missing the point here. Those library objects ARE NOT framing objects and so they SHOULD NOT be included in the framing schedule. If you want non-framing objects to be included in the framing schedule (which is really what you're asking for) then I think that's a different suggestion entirely. If you want those beams to be included in your framing schedule properly and per Chief's current design, then you should be doing yourselves a favor and using a framing object and not a symbol from the library. If the current framing tools can't give you what you need then I would suggest that you ask Chief to add the required framing type. Point is that those symbols aren't set up to work like you're requesting and never have been. In fact, there is no such thing as a framing symbol and so your desired functionality would require a whole new symbol category along with all sorts of other supporting changes to help control how the object functions and how it is to report to the schedule. This is a case where I think tech support nicely added your request to the pile, but I think they probably should have just told you you're expecting something that simply doesn't work that way.

Sounds like perhaps you're not too familial with CAD/CAM/BIM software. Softplan with all modules---> $3,585 Vectorworks Architect---> $3,045 Revit---> $2,250 per year AutoCAD Architectural---> $1,260 per year or $4,950 ArchiCAD---> Not positive, but $5,000+ last I checked (I think it was actually closer to $8,000 but I'm not sure) and could cost quite a bit more with some of the various add-ons All Plan and other full featured CAM/BIM software can easily cost $12,000+ ...and some CAM software packages such as CATIA can easily cost $50,000 or more--in fact, the yearly maintenance fee alone can cost twice as much as Chief If you ask me, Chief Architect Premier is a bargain.

Away from my computer so I can’t test this, but here’s a random idea... Use a very very small road, driveway, sidewalk, fence, or some other object that follows the terrain and just draw it around the perimeter of your house . Place it onto a unique layer and you should get a semi-automated terrain surface line.

Yep. This is a very good way to do it. Only time it really kinda sucks is at outside corners. I wish Chief would figure out a way to fix that issue.

I haven't sent anything. It's not something I care enough about right now. As you mentioned, I have very rarely used the walk-through tool. I oftentimes find good reasons to familiarize myself with the tools though for various reasons including training/support services. This issue of pausing a camera during a walk-through has come up a grand total of 1 times in my experience though and never for my own purposes, so on my personal list, I would put it somewhere between the need for a "Randomly Delete Framing Without Asking" tool and a "Gummy Worm Wizard" tool. I could see myself having fun with one of those tools. On the other hand, I guess I could maybe report the disobedient behavior as it could be part of another bigger issue with the software that might affect other dialog boxes or behaviors.

I'm not sure I'm understanding what the extra plates are even for. Can you clarify, or illustrate?

Just group select the desired foundation walls and change the sill plate setting.

Lee, I believe the problem you are seeing was a bug in X9 that has been fixed in X10.

Yes, except with this example, the point would be moot. These are not framing objects.

The material is irrelevant. It's not a framing object. In other words, just because you paint a couch with a framing material doesn't mean it would/should show up in the framing schedule.

Those beams aren't framing objects so they're not going to show in the framing schedule. If you want an I-Beam that shows up in the framing schedule, just draw an actual joist or beam, change it's Type to Steel-I and then change the material.

...or polyline solids.

Agreed. Very nice indeed.

Kinda. I was really just trying to offer a method for keeping track of/managing those masks. Make them bright red and maybe give them a super heavy line weight in a special "SHOW MASKS" layer set. Otherwise, they can be a little difficult to remember and may end up screwing up your drawing if you forget they're there after you make certain changes.

Steve, to test on your own without printing, do this... Place the %scale% macro somewhere in your view and zoom in/out until you get it to say 1/4 in = 1 ft What you see on your screen at this zoom setting is exactly what you should see if you print to scale. In other words, your screen will be reporting the actual scale as you see it on your screen. Take a ruler to your screen and you should see what I mean.

Quick tip for those unaware... Instead of repeatedly deleting those errant lines, just mask them with a CAD mask...Fill set to background color and line style set to be controlled by layer. Set the layer line style to red and the invisible line style. For added lines, just draw those in with CAD rather then editing the plot lines. This way when you update your view you don't have to keep fixing the same stuff. If you want to quickly check your plan for mask locations, just temporarily change the line style to normal and there they all are, bright red (or whatever color you want).

The slight movement is something that you want to do away with. It can be a little nauseating IMO and can make the recording a little jittery and fuzzy. This is what I was talking about... Like This.plan How difficult it is to achieve depends on how exactly you draw the walk-through path but the basics are the same...2 cameras stacked RIGHT ON TOP of each other with the distance between set to the desired time lapse. And here's my last hint...you have to tell Chief what to do multiple times in this scenario sometimes to get it to stick.

I use black and white plot lines almost exclusively for CD's.

Possible with some custom macros. Nothing quick and easy comes to mind though.

You'll probably have to set the brick to be a little darker or to use a little thicker line weight to accommodate your printer. Some printers can handle lighter colors and lighter line weights better than others. The PDF is going to be "lossless" so to speak, but physical printing can vary from one setup to the next and partially depends on the setting for that printer too.

By the way, since we're on this subject, please consider adding your support to this suggestion...

You're welcome Michael, if you haven't already however, I would still definitely recommend you send it in to tech support just to make sure they're aware of it. By the way, I sent you a PM offering a little one-on-one time on-the house to see if I could help you figure it out, but since you posted the plan I just spent that time scouring over your plan on my own instead. It actually took a fair amount longer than I would have thought to fish that one down. Glad we at least found something though : )

In my experience this is almost always the result of trying to place a break where an edit handle is currently displayed. That won't work. Toggle the display of those edit handles to solve the issue...another capability of the "new way" by the way.

You can also just get it via the Help menu.