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Looks like elevation views can't be rotated?

With those angles changed to a more 'standard' 135 degrees it's easy to get the walls to equalize but may not be what the designer wants in this case. Just an option and certainly nothing that Eric has missed with the plan as presented.

Very interesting thread/topic and solution. Nice vid as always Eric, learned something new again. I have a question though and hope it does not hijack the thread too badly. I think if it were my plan (and it's not I clearly understand) I might try and get the 2 return walls to be of equal length which would/could get the angles at each roof edge to be the same but I could not get Chief to create those equal returns. Locking wall end, start or center did not seem to matter. Set one return length adjust the other and the first would be changed. You'll see in the vid I lucked in to getting the dims to match but that was after 20 minutes of messing with it. Couple questions; would that approach make the plan and roof structure easier to manage? And is there a way accomplish that without manually lucking in to a solution? ...and if this is best in another thread please advise. Upon further review I can see how the length of those walls is not really important in this case as it would also require a 45 or 135 degree wall angle and exterior wall dimension changes to to be relevant. I think. With those changes, a -135 degree wall angle and exterior dimension changes it's down right easy but changes the plan in a way that may not be desirable.

Thanks Joe, couldn't agree more. None of the techniques are onerous in any meaningful way and was really just hoping that there might be a way the schedule box could be rotated and have the numbers come along with the text but as you suggest accepting the way it is is the only way to keep sane me thinks.

Thanks Robert and I understand the technique. Not sure which direction I'm going to go with my Schedules. It happens pretty rarely and it might be smart to change nothing and use the technique you described in those rare instances. Thanks again for all the input and help.

Thanks Mark but the direction as shown is the problem. I would like to show the schedule in the horizontal direction to make it more legible as you suggest, not in the direction as shown. However when rotating the schedule in the plan the numbers don't follow. I can copy the layout box, crop and adjust but would like to simply be able to rotate the schedule in the plan and have the numbers follow the rotation. May take the schedule out of the plan and put it in a CAD Detail sent to layout but like the convenience of working with the schedule in the plan view. Thanks again.

Thanks Dermot, I take a while to get up to speed sometimes.

Like I said, bad at explaining things. Thanks anyway but not what I was asking/looking for.

Turns out Note Schedules were indeed changed for X12. Under 'Categories to Include' there's drop down under the 'Note' category that includes/excludes note types.

Works as expected in X11...

What I'm seeing does not say Note Schedule Specification in the upper left, only says Schedule Specification with Notes Schedule as the default title.

At around 1:12 in the X11 training video the note schedule dbx shows up when selected and the type of note can be selected as I remember. When I select the Note Schedule I don't get the same dbx. https://www.chiefarchitect.com/videos/watch/91/using-notes-note-schedules.html?playlist=106 Here's the dbx as shown in the vid able to select the type of note. When I select a Note Schedule I see this second pic with no ability to select a note 'type'. What am I missing?

Thanks, not sure what that means but am sure I can't explain things very well. What about the original question. Is there a way to get the numbers to rotate along with the text in a schedule?

Probably not explaining myself very well and I've attached a plan and Layout that shows my current strategy, which I may have to abandon. yOUtUBE IS MESSING WITH MY sNAGIT SOFTWARE BUT WILL POST WHEN i CAN. Untitled 3.layout Untitled_5.plan https://youtu.be/AIsgkN6S8qs

Is that a CAD detail or in plan view?

Yeah tried the layout, the text box, the Text style, and everything else I could think of. Can you get it to work? Get the numbers to rotate with the schedule?

Yeah tried that a hundred different ways but the numbers don't rotate along with the schedule or at least I can't get them to. User error? Decent chance for sure.

Thanks Robert, I do that with my Window and Door Schedules but find having the Note Schedule in the plan allows for quick and easy note changes while in plan view instead of a separate CAD Detail. May have to abandon my ways. Perhaps the answer to my initial question is No?

Thanks Joe but some of my schedules are part of the plan view like the attached. Then I send the plan to Layout and rotate it there and the notes don't follow. Might be missing something basic.

Probably a dumb one but is there a way to rotate the note numbers within a note schedule as it's rotated? Been trying every setting I can find but am missing something. Keep getting this after rotating the schedule. But want the numbers to rotate/orient like the text Thanks

Always learn something from your vids Eric...

If you cut the roofs and 'join' them through the valleys instead of overbuilding them you will get more consistent Roofs, Overhang Area lines but just turning that layer off is smart in most all cases and less confusing in plan view.

Actually it's the Roofs, Overhang Area layer. Which is one of those Chief layers like 'ceiling break lines' that cannot be selected in Chief even when unlocked.

What happens if you make those 2 roof pitches the same? With the same base line height? Then joined them all?

Found this, if your labels are generated by the poly line label dbx.