misterwiley

Anyone run into this error before? I'm using X14 with latest update. I do have a lot of custom library objects but not nearly as many as some other people. I think its a bug because even if I delete one of the existing library objects it still says I'm at the maximum.

When you need certain rooms to frame against other rooms, I usually find that changing the framing groups in the rooms DBX to 2 or 3 while usually result in what you're asking. From the Help: Framing Groups When floor or ceiling framing is automatically generated, the program tries to create a single platform that spans as much of the structure as possible. If you need separate floor and ceiling framing in an area of your plan, as you might for an addition to an existing structure, assign the rooms in that area to a non-default Framing Group. The program treats different Framing Groups as though they were built at different times. Wall framing builds through and divides the floor framing in different Groups, while ceiling framing butts against a ledger attached to the ceiling framing of an adjacent Group. Framing Groups are assigned using numbers. The Default Framing Group is 1, which is built “first”. Each subsequently numbered group is framed as though it were added to the structure later. Although Framing Groups affect how both floor and ceiling framing is generated, the Build Framing for Selected Object(s) ../../Resources/img/btn/BuildFramingForSelected.png edit tool only builds floor framing. See Build Framing for Selected Object(s).

I think I understand. What you want to do is make the new addition room floor structure with the 2x12s into another framing group which will give you the detail you are after. Play around with this setting and you will get what you want once you rebuild the framing.

Never save is the option you're looking for

You may wish to have the inner walls sit on the lower roof and not go all the way down to the floor. Roof cuts wall at bottom is the setting you might need to toggle for those walls.

Agreed!

They added the wall break tool to the actively selected tool bar so walls now break similar to everything else. Just select the wall you need to break and you will find the tool come up under the actively selected tool bar. Similar to all other objects this can also be quickly accessed by selecting the wall and hitting the number "3" on you keyboard. For more info refer to the help section. Cheers! P.S. the wall break tool actually still exists but is hidden because its no longer necessary with the improvements of X12. If you really miss it, you can add the tool back to your toolbars by going to the customize tool bars sections and searching for the tool. Drag and drop it where ever you want to.

I agree with Joey. If the goal is to have the gutters wrap around, you are going to need a very large cricket. Any shingle roof designs I'm coming up with definitively interfere with those windows on the 2nd story so you may want to consider a TPO or standing seam metal roof. Certainly the way it is drawn now you will have crazy leaky roof problems. Images attached for fun reference.

@Alaskan_Son came up with what I would say is pretty quick way to handle this. See what he did in this thread. Once i understood how to rotate the 3d shape correctly it was honestly a breeze to get it done. I'd definitely support chief taking the time to make over-framed roofs easier by enhancing the framing tools or even making another roof base plane for stick framed areas like they do for trusses. Hope this helps in the mean time though.

Neat! Learn something new everyday. Cheers!

Two things are wrong here. 1. All the rooms on the 1st floor have the "retain floor/ceiling framing" box checked in the structure panel. To solve, go to floor 1, marquee select all the rooms on the first floor by selecting a room, click on the select similar marquee selection tool and drag a box around the entire house, then open the room spec dialog box, go to the structure panel and click the check box where it says "retain floor/ceiling framing" twice or until the box is blank. Click OK. This will fix the framing issue and generate the floor framing. 2. All your exterior walls seem to have incorrect bottom elevations. To solve, go to the first floor and select one of the exterior walls, click on the select similar marquee selection tool and dragging a box around the entire house, open the walls spec dialog box, go to the structure panel, and click the check box next to "default wall bottom height" until it is checked. Click OK. This will allow the 3D views to look correct. Hope that helps.

Look in the help files for "framing reference" marker and also joist direction tool which can control on center spacing. Joist spacing can also be controlled in the framing defaults. Everything you want can be adjusted to make the auto framing look correctly for a basic shed but you will need to set all the defaults and framing reference accordingly. This little shed would be a great time to learn all the basics of how to control the framing in Chief. Lots of info in the help files and the video tutorials located HERE.

If you don't like the auto behavior you could always go into your template plan and change the "Deck" room defaults to always have the floor framing group on number 2. This helps ensure that all decks are built against the house and never "into" the house.

Open the deck room specification dialog box, go to the Structure tab, and change the "framing group" from 1 to 2. Click ok and rebuild the deck framing.

This topic might help you understand and resolve your issue if you have AutoCad installed on your computer.

Thanks Micheal, I knew it was simple but with all the tools available it can be hard to tell the difference between those rotate buttons in the 3D box specification dialog and the other tools like the rotate handles in 3D views or the rotate command in the transform replicate tool. Each one seems to affect the object differently. Your method works great though. Thanks again!

Rotating 3D solids is not very easy when on sloping angles that you can't get a cross section to view. I know its possible because Micheal did it but I'm stumped. Chief's 3D objects tools have never been my strong suit.

As much as I would love to have this feature automated in Chief, this solution is pretty easy. Thanks for taking the time to post the example plan. I can't for the life of me replicate the valley plate that you drew with 3D shapes though. I can get close but I can't figure out how to rotate the object to sit flat against the rafters.

Usually the wall type for the railing will be a typical wall type like interior-4 or something. If that's the case there is probably a wall layer with drywall or paint that is causing the white material to display. I usually create a new wall type with opening no material that is the width of my railing to eliminate this. This is of course all a guess without the plan file to look at. Hope that helps.

Edit->Edit Area->Edit Area (All Floors) Zoom out and draw a box around the entire plan, make sure the box is large enough to capture everything that might be invisible in your current view. With the box still selected, click on the reflect tool in the tool bar and reflect about any wall or cad line either in the horizontal or vertical to flip the plan up and down or side to side respectively.

When you say manually entered dimensions I assume you mean manually type out the dimension as text rather then use the built in dimension tools. I just did a test using the method you suggested which worked great but the dimensions are all wrong because Chief can't really dimension 3D objects like sketchup can. The attached image shows a 24" base cabinet, a 45" upper cabinet, and a wall height of 8'. All the dimensions are slightly less then the actuals. For simple details typing the dimensions out as text might actual still be faster then using a 3rd party program though. Thanks Micheal

Thanks, yeah sketch up is probably my best bet for something like this I’d guess.

Can Chief Architect create orthographic details with dimensions like the follow image? If so how would you add the dimensions? If not in Chief then what software would you do a simple detail like this in and then import into Chief?

https://www.chiefarchitect.com/videos/watch/10236/cad-tools-for-productivity-what-s-coming-next.html?playlist=139

Agreed!