lizdion Posted February 8, 2016 Share Posted February 8, 2016 This happens when there is a thin wall with storefront in line with a thick masonry wall. A window placed in the thin wall cannot be pushed close to the thick wall though that minimum is a mystery. In this case the thick wall is about 16" and the distance is 9". There is no casing and ignore casing for opening is checked. I will do a work around by using thinner walls to make up the thick one, but wonder if a simpler way. I run into this often in retail design. Thanks, Liz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaskan_Son Posted February 8, 2016 Share Posted February 8, 2016 Can you attach a plan that has the problem you mention? Even just a small sample of the situation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe_Carrick Posted February 8, 2016 Share Posted February 8, 2016 Liz, I'm not seeing the problem. Check all the Window settings, including Casings, Lintels, Sills, Frame and Framing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joey_martin Posted February 8, 2016 Share Posted February 8, 2016 I am able to push the window against the CMU without any problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lizdion Posted February 8, 2016 Author Share Posted February 8, 2016 Strange. Did you both use x7? I don't think I had the problem before x7 (or maybe x6). But I have it consistently now. I've checked settings. Windows have no casing, sill, lintel or anything else. just a small frame. No minimum separation. Ignore casing for resize. Here is a test plan in a new file and I still have the problem. Thanks, Liz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaskan_Son Posted February 8, 2016 Share Posted February 8, 2016 Strange. Did you both use x7? I don't think I had the problem before x7 (or maybe x6). But I have it consistently now. I've checked settings. Windows have no casing, sill, lintel or anything else. just a small frame. No minimum separation. Ignore casing for resize. Here is a test plan in a new file and I still have the problem. Thanks, Liz No file attached. Make sure you remember to click "Attach This File" and make sure the plan is closed before you try attaching. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe_Carrick Posted February 8, 2016 Share Posted February 8, 2016 Liz, Sorry - it works in X8 but not X7. This could be a secondary benefit of X8's ability to have corner windows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lizdion Posted February 8, 2016 Author Share Posted February 8, 2016 Here's the file, I'm pretty sure this time. But I guess Joe is confirming it is an X7 thing. Thanks, Joe, for letting me know it's not just me. LizWindow test.plan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaskan_Son Posted February 8, 2016 Share Posted February 8, 2016 It actually works just fine. Here's a quick crappy video. Just seemed easier to demonstrate than to describe. It's kinda weird... I didn't go over it in the video, but you can move the whole window and then resize it, however you cannot just simply resize the window. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny Posted February 8, 2016 Share Posted February 8, 2016 I just want to say i've had a similar issue Liz is having - and I had to extend the wall out longer one side, move the window, and then shrink the wall back to the correct location. I'll watch Alaskan's vid to see if there is something i too was missing. (added after watching video) OK, so I see that it appears that Chief isn't moving the windows but it does anyway. That is the nuance I was missing too. Thanks for doing the video, that was a big help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaskan_Son Posted February 8, 2016 Share Posted February 8, 2016 I just want to say i've had a similar issue Liz is having - and I had to extend the wall out longer one side, move the window, and then shrink the wall back to the correct location. I'll watch Alaskan's vid to see if there is something i too was missing. (added after watching video) OK, so I see that it appears that Chief isn't moving the windows but it does anyway. That is the nuance I was missing too. Thanks for doing the video, that was a big help. You're totally welcome. Its a goofy little quirk for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lizdion Posted February 9, 2016 Author Share Posted February 9, 2016 Wow. Thanks, Michael. Have to drag the center past the end of the wall. And it is either all or nothing. But that works for storefront. Liz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaskan_Son Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 Wow. Thanks, Michael. Have to drag the center past the end of the wall. And it is either all or nothing. But that works for storefront. Liz Not exactly all or nothing. Actually, if you go into your casing settings, turn the casing on, set it all to zero and then turn it back off, you can get the window to within 4" (the limit seems to be whatever the casing is set to plus 4". You can also resize the window after dragging it tight by making it smaller and get it to within 1-3/4". Then you can resize the window again (through the dbx) to get anywhere from 1-3/4" to 4". Once the spacing is set you can drag the window by the edit handle opposite the wall connection and resize it to what you want. Can't seem to get the window anywhere between 0" and 1-3/4" though. Very very funky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lizdion Posted February 9, 2016 Author Share Posted February 9, 2016 Thanks again. Hopefully it will all be easier with X8. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glennw Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 This all works much better in X8. In X8, you can even span the window across 2 wall types - even if they have different thicknesses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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