dshall Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 .....but that's a secondary issue and wasn't part of Dennis' request. okay, it is not Gavin's request, so now it is my request, why can't I build it so it looks good? Suppose I add a newel at the corner, will that help? Seriously, this is the kind of stuff the users have been complaining about for eons now when it comes to modeling stairs. If we can't make it look good, let's say so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaskan_Son Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 Here is the plan, maybe you can fix it. Sorry, don't have X8 yet. Waiting for full public release to make sure kinks are worked out. To be fair though, I'm not so sure I'll be able to fix that connection issue. Again, that's sort of a secondary issue though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaskan_Son Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 okay, it is not Gavin's request, so now it is my request, why can't I build it so it looks good? Suppose I add a newel at the corner, will that help? Seriously, this is the kind of stuff the users have been complaining about for eons now when it comes to modeling stairs. If we can't make it look good, let's say so. We can't make it look good without adding an extra newel post. Adding an extra newel could fix it though. Here's something to think about... That connection isn't possible to perfect in real life either. It would need a newel post or plinth block of some sort for the transition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dshall Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 .....That connection isn't possible to perfect in real life either. It would need a newel post or plinth block of some sort for the transition. agreed, good point, however, even if I hold railing back, it is difficult to make it look good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaskan_Son Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 agreed, good point, however, even if I hold railing back, it is difficult to make it look good. Ya, that's what I was envisioning. With the railing width you're using though you would need a bigger newel or block anyway. Use a smaller rail or larger corner post and it should look just fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 In real life the only way I've been able to get those railing transitions to work (as shown in the pics so far) is by treating them as "separate" sections. This has always been a challenge area. There are design changes you can make to the landing that allows a continuous railing, but it ends up having an additional transition (making the landing longer in one direction) so the rail can run "level" for a few inches or so, and then the additional transition. If you want complete symmetry, then you can run the landing and equal length so the "level" rail area makes the 90 degree turn before it transitions down (or up) again. Not sure if this explains what I mean, but its the way to make this work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yusuf-333 Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 Make the baluster width zero in the stair dbx, the you have the stair system with railings over it! And finally Use the rail style panel(solid no rails) and make it to follow the stair. Don't forget to play with Newel spacing to get the look you want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 Here is a quick image that might help explain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yusuf-333 Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 Humm...me fail again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dshall Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 Humm...me fail again. Hey Yusuf, can you post that plan? It looks like you did a real good job with the railings. I would like to study your plan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yusuf-333 Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 Hey Yusuf, can you post that plan? It looks like you did a real good job with the railings. I would like to study your plan.Oh Scott, stupid time difference. It was my last eye blink on bed, I posted it. I wouldn't be too late to post the plan.Here goes chief... GLASS RAILING DENNIS.plan GLASS RAILING DENNIS.2.plan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glennw Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 The problem is that Chief is bending down the lower section (before it meets the landing) of the upper stair rail to make it meet (the height) the lower stair railing. You can see this bending easily if you do an elevation of the upper stair rail, although, it is visible in the 3D views. The only way I can clean up the junction and get rid of the auto rail bending is to increase the height of the lower stair rail. In this pic, I made the lower stair rail 37 1/4" high, which is the minimum difference (upper rail is 36") that I could get the junction to auto heal. You would still need to place a newel at the junction. Keep in mind that even if both rails were the same height above the stairs, they would still join like the attached pic, and there would still have to be a newel. The top rails would not meet at the same height because of the number of risers at the inside corner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javatom Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 You can eliminate the newel by using a goose neck handrail connection as shown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennis_Gavin Posted January 21, 2016 Author Share Posted January 21, 2016 Tom - is that a stair railing or a wall railing? Not sure how you got those results, top rail over panel sections. And that gooseneck connection is great. Can you post the plan? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javatom Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 It is a stair supplied hand rail with "smooth transitions" checked. Set the stair rail width to zero and place a panel rail in line with it. Make sure to check "follow stair" for the panel. glass stair rail.plan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javatom Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 One other thing to mention. Set the stair to NOT supply newels. The uprights are set in the panel specifications, not the stair. At least for this particular look. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennis_Gavin Posted January 21, 2016 Author Share Posted January 21, 2016 Tom - been out all morning and heading out again but THANKS! I see you are using a combination of the two. I will study it more when I get back. Had a quick go on my plan but have to get the railing stacked over the panel. I'll BE BACK! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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