Is There a Way To Set Second Floor Defaults Without a Second Floor?

[HumbleChief]

Whenever I build a second floor the defaults are set to 97 1/8 rough ceiling and I'd prefer 97" instead. I can't find a way to set that default without a second floor to set that default height, without that second floor, so I end up having to reset the rough ceiling height every time I add a second floor. Probably something simple but but what might I be missing?

 

 

[MarkMc]

Open new blank plan, set first floor default. Add second floor also blank, set height. Save as template, uncheck delete extra floors.

[HumbleChief]

Thanks Mark, not sure I exactly follow. I can create a template with a second floor but most of my jobs are single story so I'd have to delete the second floor on most jobs, creating about the same amount of (minimal I admit) effort. Is that what you are suggesting? And I've looked all over for a 'delete extra floors' check box to uncheck it but its too well hidden for me.

 

Curious where does Chief come up the initial setting for default floor heights? Must be hard coded in somehow?

 

Thank Again.

[HumbleChief]

Found this in the help files attached.

 

Only the defaults for Floor 1 can be set ahead of time. The program uses the settings from Floor 1 to create subsequent floors. This does not seem to be true.

[MarkMc]

1 hour ago, HumbleChief said:

And I've looked all over for a 'delete extra floors' check box to uncheck it but its too well hidden for me.

That shows up when you use File, save as template

Attached file has 108" first floor and 97" second floor.

 

2nd fl 97.zip

[HumbleChief]

Thanks Mark, seems like that gets me an additional second floor in my template plan which I really don't want as most of plans are single story. still can't quite understand why Chief defaults to 97 1/8" for that second floor default. Thank You again.

[Archnot-Boltz]

Seems like a suggestions request item to me. Maybe it's been addressed in X16! bb

[DRAWZILLA]

i always have a second floor in my templates and even have a box second floor plan in my template plan . It makes it easy to delete if I don't need a 2nd floor. I would rather delete than add.

 

[HumbleChief]

Thanks P, been there done that and neither method, deleting the 1/8" or deleting a second floor, represents much effort but it's just been a niggle forever and am still curious why Chief has seemingly hard coded that 97 1/8" default into the plans and why the help file re: second floor defaults is not accurate. Thanks again.

[SNestor]

- Why do you prefer 97"?

- What length pre-cut studs are you using where you end up with a 97" ceiling height? This isn't my experience...

- Is this a typical rough ceiling height where you live?

 

Just like Perry...I always have a 2nd floor in my plans. I learned this from the great @dshall. It makes a lot of sense. If you set this up in your template you can make the ceiling height whatever you like. You can always delete the floor...but if you need it - it's there, and it's 97". 

[HumbleChief]

Thanks Steve, and yes well aware of standard stud lengths but simply don't want to mess with the 1/8" as it has no real bearing for me and my plans. I've also setup a template with a second floor in the past and as you suggest it's easy to remove and as I've suggested it's just a curiosity niggle why Chief insists upon 97 1/8" and where that insistence is coded into the software. I suspect it's there representing exactly what you point out as far as standard stud lengths etc. The help file on the other hand states that subsequent floors will be based on the first floor defaults, which is simply not accurate. Thank You again for your reply.