GregCormier Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 Good day, I've been trying to figure out how to draw a sloped exterior like shown in my attached file that can have any materials (siding, brick, stucco...). I can't seem to find anything. Regards, Annik Robichaud Interior Designer / Designer Intérieure Dieppe, NB Canada link from you tube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tXBn_sxWME Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yusuf-333 Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 Roof are the most suitable tool to create this. I use roofs for any thing with irregularities that chief can't do. Can't see the attached file. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe_Carrick Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 If just the Exterior is to be sloped, you can use one or more molding polylines with a triangular shaped molding profile. If you can attach the pic I can be more specific. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GregCormier Posted February 4, 2015 Author Share Posted February 4, 2015 I found a video link on you tube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tXBn_sxWME Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe_Carrick Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 Greg, Chief doesn't do "Sloped Walls" but you can use a Roof Plane. However, there's no way to insert a door or window into a Roof Plane. Attach a pic of what you want it to look like and we can help. Otherwise we can't help you do what you want. Even better, also attach your plan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GregCormier Posted February 4, 2015 Author Share Posted February 4, 2015 Hi Joe, I just finished a quick exercise with the sloped wall, well actual a polyline objet. I just don't know what to do next. I hope you can help. Thanks Annik Slopped Walls.plan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe_Carrick Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 Is this what you are looking for? Note: I did this with 3 Molding Polylines, not a Polyline Solid. The Molding Polylines are drawn in Plan View and each is assigned a different height and Molding Shape to fit: 1. Below the Window 2. At the Window 3. Above the Window If you need something more complex then I would model it using Primitive Solids and the Boolean Operations. Since I don't know exactly what the end result should be, it's difficult to give you the best possible way of doing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicinus Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 Greg, last time I used Revit it couldn't do slanted walls either? You would have to use massing as a reference, which is messy and inflexible. Did joe's suggestion work for you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich_Winsor Posted February 5, 2015 Share Posted February 5, 2015 I can draw sloped/tilted walls. This is dedicated to Antoine. He gave me the inspiration during the symbols workshop. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dshall Posted February 5, 2015 Share Posted February 5, 2015 I can draw sloped/tilted walls. This is dedicated to Antoine. He gave me the inspiration during the symbols workshop. Uh oh, how Rich? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mthd97 Posted February 5, 2015 Share Posted February 5, 2015 You can put a skylight into a roof plane and make one that looks like a window. If I wanted sloped walls I would use another app that does it with ease for a house like that. For a simple house with a feature wall I would use Chief with work arounds as suggested by others here. X8 might have sloped walls in it if we persuaded administration as that is a very common feature in modern Architecture these days especially in the commercial field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GregCormier Posted February 5, 2015 Author Share Posted February 5, 2015 Thanks everyone! I just all of the posts you guys did! And yes Joe this is exactly what we're looking for. That's perfect! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GregCormier Posted February 5, 2015 Author Share Posted February 5, 2015 Hi Joe, Could you please resend me that plan. If possible? Thanks Annik Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRAWZILLA Posted February 5, 2015 Share Posted February 5, 2015 Nice, but try a Battered wall on the front or back walls with windows and doors. It's a PIA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe_Carrick Posted February 5, 2015 Share Posted February 5, 2015 Hi Joe, Could you please resend me that plan. If possible? Thanks Annik Greg, What version of Chief are you working in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dshall Posted February 5, 2015 Share Posted February 5, 2015 Nice, but try a Battered wall on the front or back walls with windows and doors. It's a PIA Yeah, I had a feeling there was an issue with that. I still do not know how he did what he did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe_Carrick Posted February 5, 2015 Share Posted February 5, 2015 Yeah, I had a feeling there was an issue with that. I still do not know how he did what he did. I would say that he probably used roof planes sloped the opposite direction - but in order to have the normal roof structure there would need to be invisible walls and maybe a second floor where the attic exists. Another option would be to create the walls, convert them to symbols and rotate them to the desired slope - but you would still need the invisible walls and some wall editing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dshall Posted February 5, 2015 Share Posted February 5, 2015 I would say that he probably used roof planes sloped the opposite direction - but in order to have the normal roof structure there would need to be invisible walls and maybe a second floor where the attic exists. Another option would be to create the walls, convert them to symbols and rotate them to the desired slope - but you would still need the invisible walls and some wall editing. You maybe correct, it just looks like he might of done something more "magical". It looks really good.... of course it is a RENDER VIEW, a VECTOR VIEW may show us what he really did. Hey Rich, where the heck are you Bud, help me out here, am I missing something "magical" that you and Antoine have come up with? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich_Winsor Posted February 5, 2015 Share Posted February 5, 2015 Hey guys, it was a late night and I burned a lot of brain cells working on this one. Remember when Antoine stopped the show and insisted that you try to tilt the origin logo out of plumb? That's basically what I did with a wall. First I just drew a straight section of exterior wall (I chose Stucco6 because I wasn't man enough to deal with the problems presented by horizontal siding). Then while in 3D view I converted the wall section to a symbol. I placed a copy of the symbol into the plan view and using the Symbol Specification dbx I rotated the wall section symbol 5° out of vertical/plumb. Then once again while in 3d view I created a new symbol out of the previous symbol. I now have a symbol of a section of battered wall that is tilting out 5° at the top. That was the easy part. Then I put a copy of the tilted wall symbol into a fresh plan view and tried to coerce it into behaving enough to get the results you see. As you all have correctly surmised there are some interesting issues to be dealt with not the least of which is the fact that regular walls don't recognize and interact with symbols of walls. I placed invisible walls on top of the battered wall symbols to form a room but then the floor and subfloor of the room wanted to extend out beyond the bottom of the walls to be in line with the ceiling. Rather than mess around with that I just removed the floor and used a Polyline Solid for the floor. As Perry pointed out putting openings into the wall symbols turns out to be a bit more problematic. I was hoping somebody might have a solution for that. The wall symbol won't accept doors or windows and it doesn't show up at all in framing. Plan B is to try putting the openings into the wall section before turning it into a symbol and see how that responds but I haven't had a chance to play around with that. This was a banzai attack with no turning back to get these results. When I regain my strength I will try to refine the approach. Attached is an Interior vector view. All in all it's pretty clean. Moldings are another thing that don't respond to symbols of walls but I didn't want to take the time to do them manually. I guess the $64,000 question is can a wall symbol be made to act like an actual wall with all it's attributes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRAWZILLA Posted February 6, 2015 Share Posted February 6, 2015 Thanks for your answer Rich. To me still not doable in Chief without trouble. Any of those kinds of jobs coming my way, I'll take a pass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe_Carrick Posted February 6, 2015 Share Posted February 6, 2015 So basically Rich did what I said in my second option of post #17 of this thread. Not a bad guess. Putting Windows in before creating the first symbol would work but they wouldn't be in the Window Schedule. Doors would essentially be impossible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GregCormier Posted February 6, 2015 Author Share Posted February 6, 2015 Wow so I hope that this will become more easy with time. We have a few drawings with that sloped walls that my boss wants to be able to do. Joe did you have a chance to resend me that file with the sloped that you did. You had ask what version of chief that I had and it's X6 Thanks Annik Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe_Carrick Posted February 6, 2015 Share Posted February 6, 2015 Annik, I will do it tonight. I am tied up with a lot of other projects today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GregCormier Posted February 6, 2015 Author Share Posted February 6, 2015 Thank you very much! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dshall Posted February 6, 2015 Share Posted February 6, 2015 Thanks for your answer Rich. To me still not doable in Chief without trouble. Any of those kinds of jobs coming my way, I'll take a pass. Ditto............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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