Joe_Carrick Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 With the new Mitered Material Regions I thought i'd try something with "Structural Wall Types". Specifically I wanted to limit my Wall Types to just the structural elements. ie: SIP's CMU's Concrete etc. and then add Wall Material Regions to the Interior and Exterior. This works - but only to a point. The problems I've come up against are: Doors and Windows don't recognize the thicknesses of the WMR's as a part of the wall, so casings, etc are not automatically where desired. When a WMR covers the entire wall surface I can't select the wall in 3D. WMR Fills don't show in Plan Views Wall Schedules don't include the WMR's If these things could be overcome I would probably change my approach to Wall Types entirely. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raltd9245 Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 Good Luck Old Man you can!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rgardner Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 2 hours ago, Joe_Carrick said: If these things could be overcome I would probably change my approach to Wall Types entirely. Just curious… Why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe_Carrick Posted July 14, 2022 Author Share Posted July 14, 2022 1 hour ago, rgardner said: Just curious… Why? It would simplify the Wall Types by having only about 8-10 Wall Types (Just the Structural Layers) All Finish Layers would be WMR's. Currently I have about 100 Wall Types in my Library - various structural mixed with all sorts of finishes. IOW, I wouldn't need different Wall Types for every possible set of Finish Layers - Interior & Exterior. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rgardner Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 43 minutes ago, Joe_Carrick said: It would simplify the Wall Types by having only about 8-10 Wall Types (Just the Structural Layers) All Finish Layers would be WMR's. Currently I have about 100 Wall Types in my Library - various structural mixed with all sorts of finishes. IOW, I wouldn't need different Wall Types for every possible set of Finish Layers - Interior & Exterior. That is alot of wall types. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robdyck Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 You'd be trading a lot of wall types for a lot of manual material regions....good luck with that! Maybe you're on to something that I don't understand...entirely possible. I only install siding or drywall manually when I absolutely have to. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 What I like too about this idea is not having to mess with pony walls if you simply want to change a material type from floor to floor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael_Gia Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 Talk about, looking for a solution to a problem that doesn’t exist… I applaud the initiative, however. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe_Carrick Posted July 18, 2022 Author Share Posted July 18, 2022 So, by way of explanation, I'm doing a project with SIPs. I have 2 thicknesses of the SIPs (4" & 6") and the following wall surfaces: 5/8" Drywall both sides 5/8" Drywall Interior 1" Stucco Exterior 5/8" Drywall one side - other side exposed framing 1" Stucco both sides Stone Veneer Exterior 5/8" Drywall Interior Stone Veneer Exterior - other side exposed framing So that can add up to a total of 12 Wall Types - just for this project alone. OTOH, it's only 2 basic Structural Walls & 3 sets of Finish Layers which could be WMR's. Based on the possibility of Stud Wall, CMUs, Concrete, etc plus a couple of other finishes it's easily possible to wind up with another 40-50 distinct Wall Assemblies. In order to avoid having to define several wall types for each new project I save them in my Library. This is why I would consider changing my methodology - but only if I could still have the full wall definition in the Wall Schedule. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe_Carrick Posted July 18, 2022 Author Share Posted July 18, 2022 The above is just for a Custom Home and I didn't include the interior non-bearing stud walls. If it was a remodel I might need 3 times as many Wall Types to deal with Existing, Demo & New. Arrrgh !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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