yusuf-333 Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 https://www.google.com.et/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&ei=GLW1VPLvOOSZygPZzYDICA&url=http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DPORzzZqmVR4&ved=0CBsQtwIwAA&usg=AFQjCNGM3VbLTWDDG_3FCABMcQz7ozb3dg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HumbleChief Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 Can't wait to see your vids Yusuf - didn't mention there's nothing in your post but I'm betting you know that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yusuf-333 Posted January 13, 2015 Author Share Posted January 13, 2015 cant post the link i couldn't figure out why the link doesn't work! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yusuf-333 Posted January 13, 2015 Author Share Posted January 13, 2015 spirral stair video by yusuf 4: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dshall Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 Hey Yusuf, you crazy Ethiopian, where is the volume? Need the volume Buddy. But liked the vid. I was able to follow it. Surprised that you did not have to use two stairs since the stairs made a complete 360 degree turn. Nice job, thanks Yusuf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HumbleChief Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 Couldn't view the video - just a blank screen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yusuf-333 Posted January 13, 2015 Author Share Posted January 13, 2015 Sorry guys tonight I am having troubles with my internet connection, I wasn't able to follow the talk ,but is it ok now I was struggling with posting the link. I don't know how I posted this even. Is it normal this youtube screen in my post. Hey Scott English is my 99th language. Thought silent cry was better, anyway I will try it in the future. Glad if that worked. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dshall Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 .....Hey Scott English is my 99th language. ..... LOL, I figured by now you would be pretty darn good at it, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dshall Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 BTW Yusuf, you might be quicker than the Moakster using the mouse and the icons.... very very quick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yusuf-333 Posted January 13, 2015 Author Share Posted January 13, 2015 Lary, is it still invisible or working some should assist me to make it well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dshall Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 Lary, is it still invisible or working some should assist me to make it well. It works for me in post #4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yusuf-333 Posted January 13, 2015 Author Share Posted January 13, 2015 BTW Yusuf, you might be quicker than the Moakster using the mouse and the icons.... very very quick. 1.5x the normal speed. Edited the video to decrease uploaded bites. I am using prepaid devise. No one can be fast as such. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe_Carrick Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 OK, I see how it was done, but it's only 360 degrees and the treads are too small to meet code. The maximum would be 30 degrees and for a 9' floor to floor height it would take 13 treads at 30 degrees to meet the code rise and run requirements. The bottom line is that this doesn't provide a legal spiral. That said, it is still an excellent use of Chief's limited capability to do spiral stairs. For anything up to a full 360 degrees it works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill_Emery Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 For general information here is Salter's chart for code stair packages, with floor to floor heights, number of treads, and degrees of rotation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe_Carrick Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 Bill, That's interesting but it appears that it's allowing for 9.5" maximum riser heights. My experience is that 8.5" is maximum. Maybe there's been a code change that I'm not aware of. IAE, I try to keep it around 8" just for comfort. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dshall Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 Bill, That's interesting but it appears that it's allowing for 9.5" maximum riser heights. My experience is that 8.5" is maximum. Maybe there's been a code change that I'm not aware of. IAE, I try to keep it around 8" just for comfort. That is interesting, I wonder what the maximum riser height is for a spiral stairs. I think it is higher than your typical stairs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRAWZILLA Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 here is the California code Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill_Emery Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 Looks like California conforms with the model code; often California is more restrictive. 9.5" rise on a spiral on a small diameter spiral feels good under foot, it becomes more like a ladder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe_Carrick Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 OK, so 9-1/2" maximum riser height and 6'6" clear head height. The minimum Tread of 7-1/2" at 12" from the inside generally means that 30 degree treads must be used. I can get the 6'6" clearance in most cases with an 8" riser so that's why I tend to use those dimensions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill_Emery Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 I've been trying to use Yusuf's method for a spiral on a current project, but it's just too hard to control the diameter and the degrees of rotation, so I've reverted to Joe's method. I'd like to see better control of this aspect of stairs in X8. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJSpud Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 Thanks Yusuf ... very interesting that you had the patience to get that to work. I have a hard enough time getting curved arrows to do what I want them to do. I will have to give that a try one of these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yusuf-333 Posted January 14, 2015 Author Share Posted January 14, 2015 OK, I see how it was done, but it's only 360 degrees and the treads are too small to meet code. The maximum would be 30 degrees and for a 9' floor to floor height it would take 13 treads at 30 degrees to meet the code rise and run requirements. The bottom line is that this doesn't provide a legal spiral. That said, it is still an excellent use of Chief's limited capability to do spiral stairs. For anything up to a full 360 degrees it works. Thanks Joe. Actually for more than 360 it needs 2 or more stairs should be used. I have posted the plan in earlier thread for discussion and no one has responded I was experimenting on it too. May be I have to look at it to fit with your spec. Hopefully it works may be I have to make a video for that method too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yusuf-333 Posted January 14, 2015 Author Share Posted January 14, 2015 I've been trying to use Yusuf's method for a spiral on a current project, but it's just too hard to control the diameter and the degrees of rotation, so I've reverted to Joe's method. I'd like to see better control of this aspect of stairs in X8. Bill you are right, joe's method has a very nice control, try it some more you will ways to controll. Actually if you managed to close the 360 then I think noProblem. Don't forget to make off some snaps like grid,angle snaps .. Or Hold CTRLfor controlled movement too. Curtis thanks, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill_Emery Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 Yusuf, I've got a stair that has eleven, 30 degree segments or 330 degrees total. I can get it to work, but making minor changes can be disastrous. I'll play with it more, but is easier and more reliable to use Joe's method for now. It would be good to be able to specify the degrees of rotation, and the diameter and have them lock. The segment and the total degree rotation are controlled by the tread depth at the walk line, the stair width, and the number of treads. It's quite difficult to keep all of the variable under control. Using Joe's method I've set up plans with Salter's A,B,C, and D configurations, so I can easily create a model with varying number of treads, and riser heights, with variations of the landing detail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dshall Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 .....Using Joe's method I've set up plans with Salter's A,B,C, and D configurations, so I can easily create a model with varying number of treads, and riser heights, with variations of the landing detail. This is so key, I too have a "TEMPLATE SPIRAL STAIR PLAN" that I create any new stairs from. A big time saver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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