mmebsc Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 Hey Experienced Users, I'm using X12, I'll add a picture and my file to be sure I don't waste anyone's time. I'm a Remodel Contractor, and Design Company. Using this tool to bring in the green I have a client that wants to build a home from shipping containers, so here we go. I started building a generic container to start my design. I'm trying to develop a shell with the framing and interior wall stuff already in place. Thought is, at that point I can start stacking, and placing containers, then go in and make openings, and do all the cool stuff. Problem: my ceiling/roof is higher than my wall. 3 hours later I need help.SHIPPING CONTAINER HOME 1.plan Thanks all, Mark I&C Construction Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chopsaw Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 You will need to carefully consider the process and methods you use. Something is wrong with your uploaded plan file... It says Unavailable for some reason. Be sure to save and close the file before uploading and Zip if over 14MB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joey_martin Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 Talk them out of it! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HumbleChief Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 58 minutes ago, joey_martin said: Talk them out of it! ...or at least look seriously into what it will take to complete a shipping container home. Will there be permits? Or is this a backyard project with no inspections? If it's a permitted project let's just say you will have a lot of fun getting the engineering done as a start. There's a couple threads here re: shipping containers that might be enlightening. As far as your picture it looks like there might be some roof framing that's not showing that makes it looks like your roof is too high. You can adjust the roof framing, turn its layer on if it's not, or perhaps lower the roof but getting a plan so we can view it is your best bet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rgardner Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 13 hours ago, mmebsc said: Hey Experienced Users, I'm using X12, I'll add a picture and my file to be sure I don't waste anyone's time. I'm a Remodel Contractor, and Design Company. Using this tool to bring in the green I have a client that wants to build a home from shipping containers, so here we go. I started building a generic container to start my design. I'm trying to develop a shell with the framing and interior wall stuff already in place. Thought is, at that point I can start stacking, and placing containers, then go in and make openings, and do all the cool stuff. Problem: my ceiling/roof is higher than my wall. 3 hours later I need help. SHIPPING CONTAINER HOME 1.planUnavailable Thanks all, Mark I&C Construction Plan file doesn't work to check but by chance did you manually drag your walls down? If so that is the issue. Select the four walls open the wall dbx on the structures dbx select default wall top and bottom. Otherwise its just a guess until we see a plan file. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HumbleChief Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 I actually built a shipping container structure in La Jolla, CA. If you don't know where that is it is in one the most highly regulated areas in CA. Shipping containers are amazingly strong and structurally sound - until you cut a window or door into them. That's where the engineering fun begins as they are suddenly worthless from an engineering standpoint. If it's in your back yard I would have no problem. Permitted and inspected? I echo everything John_Charles put so well above, and then some. I recently watched a video of a young couple who built from a couple of containers and they framed up the interior walls for electrical and insulation, then drywalled and could have done the same thing for way less if there was no container in the way. On the other hand these sorts of explorations and experiences can lend a huge amount of knowledge to your portfolio but if you decide to actually build with shipping containers beware and carefully read what John has posted above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmebsc Posted July 9, 2021 Author Share Posted July 9, 2021 Sorry about that, I'll try the file again. Thanks for all the input. I've done some research on the logistics of a container home in our area, but still have a lot of research to do. My clients have also put a fair amount of time doing research. Hopefully we come up with something realistic, or bail on the idea. Thanks John_Charles for all the details. Gives me a great perspective I can share with my clients. SHIPPING CONTAINER HOME 1.zip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rgardner Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 40 minutes ago, mmebsc said: Sorry about that, I'll try the file again. Thanks for all the input. I've done some research on the logistics of a container home in our area, but still have a lot of research to do. My clients have also put a fair amount of time doing research. Hopefully we come up with something realistic, or bail on the idea. Thanks John_Charles for all the details. Gives me a great perspective I can share with my clients. SHIPPING CONTAINER HOME 1.zip 158 B · 0 downloads You have to make sure that you have it completely closed out of chief before you upload it or it's blank still. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmebsc Posted July 9, 2021 Author Share Posted July 9, 2021 Third time is a charm, I hope SHIPPING CONTAINER HOME 1 (2).zip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rgardner Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 8 hours ago, rgardner said: by chance did you manually drag your walls down? If so that is the issue. Select the four walls open the wall dbx on the structures dbx select default wall top and bottom. Otherwise its just a guess until we see a plan file. Yes that time the file worked. Yup as I thought manual wall manipulation strikes again. Try to get out of the habit of manually dragging walls as 95-98% of the time it is unnecessary and 100% of the time it causes an issue later on. Long wall on the right I just re-selected the Default Wall Height for top and it flushed up to the roof you did. Showing you the left one and where to fix it in the picture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaskan_Son Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 21 hours ago, mmebsc said: I'm trying to develop a shell with the framing and interior wall stuff already in place. Thought is, at that point I can start stacking, and placing containers, then go in and make openings, and do all the cool stuff. This statement raises some red flags to me. Assuming you decide to go forward with using containers, I would strongly recommend you change course with your preliminary modeling plans. You can't just stack and reposition the 3D room once you model it once. It doesn't quite work that way. Instead, I would recommend just starting with a symbol, solid, or architectural block and then copy/reposition that as necessary. Once you have a rough idea of what you're doing design wise, then you can model walls, windows, doors, roof planes, etc. around those objects. I would personally very seriously consider just making myself a primitive solid shaped exactly like the shipping container. Copy, paste, and reposition that around as necessary. Then, model around that, aligning walls, windows, doors, floors, ceilings, etc. to those solids using boolean operations as you go for all cutouts. This will help keep things as accurate as possible. As you're modeling you'll be forced to consider the actual container structure, and all the cuts you'll be making. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rgardner Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 14 minutes ago, Alaskan_Son said: I would personally very seriously consider just making myself a primitive solid shaped exactly like the shipping container. Copy, paste, and reposition that around as necessary. Solid advice from Michael on the actual process of how to model it. Just to add something that may help you in this course is that there is actually shipping containers pre-modeled in a bonus catalog. But they are basically shapes that you can place to show a container and are not "smart" or dynamic where you can add windows and doors. Chief is an Architectural modeling program so you have to work within it's constraints. It works off of rooms, walls are set by ceiling and roof heights will be filled from that room to the bottom of your set roof. Opposite is true to your foundation in the other direction. You need an 8' high room you set the ceiling at 8' and draw your walls... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmebsc Posted July 10, 2021 Author Share Posted July 10, 2021 Thank you very much rgardner, and Alaskan_son. Lots to consider from everyone. I like the idea to use solid blocks. I'll give it a try. I'm a newbie, so I think this design is above my pay grade, but I love a challenge, and we'll see if it makes sense to do in the end. appreciate everyone's input. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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