ShaneK Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 I fix plans for many and this spray can tool needs to have warning on it,,,,,,, "USE AT YOUR OWN RISK, WILL CAUSE MAJOR PROBLEMS" . Seriously change your wall type if materials thicknesses do not match. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RodCole Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 Telling on myself here a bit, but it does provide an example of how things get a bit out of hand if you are not careful. I do know better than to do this but, I thought I would save some time by using the default settings "concrete" in the Polyline Solids tool to create the metal framing members on a Storefront Window Wall. I quite happily painted the members black and while I was at it I painted the door black as well, or so I thought at the time. The problem showed up when I added the Material category to the Door Schedule, then a mile long listing of the actual material definition showed up in all of it's glory with black showing at the end. I could have changed the material definition in the door's dbx, but instead I dropped the doors from the Schedule because I could in this situation. Even though I did know better, I thought I could get away with it just this time, but that darn Cat in the Hat got me. Lesson learned, again. 2 cents. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidJPotter Posted November 26, 2020 Share Posted November 26, 2020 Any end-users should take the time and personal responsibility to study and practice with their tools before they inflict their use on a plan file. The Materials tools are no different AND that is again why Windows has an "UNDO" command when one screws up. DJP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lbuttery Posted November 26, 2020 Share Posted November 26, 2020 why Windows has an "UNDO" command when one screws up assuming one spots the issue at that time Rod didn't find the issue until he did Schedules Also, not everyone has time to "play" with every setting of every tool in a variety of scenarios It is just not feasible ... Lew 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe_Carrick Posted November 26, 2020 Share Posted November 26, 2020 I learned very early that the "Paint" tool was a something to be avoided in most cases. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kbird1 Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 Completely Agree especially on Exterior Walls , just copy the closest Wall-type and adjust the Wall Definition and assign the material as needed, don't just change the material on the Material Tab for the existing Wall. *** I say this because, recently in someone's Plan I was helping, I came across a strange Paint Can caused issue. All the walls in a two Story Sports-barn building (with a Full Basketball court) were the Same Color (BM OC-26) but different walls looked like they were a different Shades of the same color ... I thought it was just lighting at 1st but no....and when checking the materials, I didn't notice at 1st that the Word Default was missing from the Material's name in the Select Window, so I fixed the Wall definitions for each wall-type and then forced them all back to Default using the Default Material Button and suddenly the Whole interior looked the same......The Person later confirmed they had tried to fix the issue themselves ( with the paint can tool) and it only seemed to get worse, it doesn't make 100% sense to me that it being a Default ...or Not would cause this but there you go.... another reason to take great care with the Paint Can Tool. M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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