ACADuser Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 OK all this talk about correct models yields a clean layout makes me ask what to do to clean this up. Item 1 is the end of the right wall coming through on the front wall. Wall type is CMU Stucco with Drywall on the interior (stock catalog wall) Item 2 is a joint between floors, this front face in actuality is a contentious CMU wall & no seams. But most all 1st floor to 2nd floor walls should be seamless on the exterior. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRAWZILLA Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 I don't see a plan but most of those items are about having the correct wall definition's / main layer and wall alignments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dshall Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 Easy peasy. What do you want it to look like on the right, what kind of walls are you using on left? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACADuser Posted November 16, 2014 Author Share Posted November 16, 2014 Plan attached. I want clean corner, one line. Not any end wall showing. Have to leave, dinner time here. Later PS This is one of my first projects but I am working on three others, early stages. Wall Test.zip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chief58 Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 from what I can see it is your 3d box maling the muliple lines not you wall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HumbleChief Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 Don't know your name but check this plan I attached. Look at the wall definitions and compare to what you had. The walls are more accurately defined as real world as built walls with CMU block, stucco exterior and drywall interior with the exterior CMU wall as the main layer. Then I reversed the layers which you shouldn't have had to do but it got a single line instead of the 2 you had. I'm not sure what you want to do with the parapet wall definition so I left it alone but maybe the new definitions will help you define the parapet the way you want it. Defining your walls correctly is a very important first step when starting a plan as well as defining your default floor structures. Walls are usually defined from the top (exterior surface) to the bottom (interior finish) with pretty much any material in between. You had all 3 layers defined as the main layers, with the top (exterior layer) as 7 5/8" stucco the middle layer as 3/4" air gap and the bottom (interior layer) as drywall. Here's another way to define the wall that works better. See if that helps Wall Test NEW WALLS.zip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chief58 Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 if you move the back the back of your cad block into the wall some the lines go away see attached Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chief58 Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 didn't attach last time Wall Test repair.zip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chief58 Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 Larry when I looked at the floor plan I seen there was a cad block at that area when I mived it back the inside line went away Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HumbleChief Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 Once you have your default walls defined correctly double click on the exterior wall icon and select that newly defined wall as your default exterior wall, then anytime you draw an exterior wall your exterior and interior layers will be in the right places. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HumbleChief Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 Can't find that CAD block Raymond and I think you're right that it might fix the line but the walls are not defined correctly to give consistent results - unless I'm missing something. OK I see custom counter tops on top of the wall? Still think the structure need to be right to get consistent results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HumbleChief Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 ACAD (sorry don't know your name) you also have many many Layer sets that renamed each time you send a plan to Layout. Very few use this 'feature'. If you uncheck the box below you'll be able to mange your Layer Sets much better. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chief58 Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 Larry totally agree with you about the walls needing to be correct, attached is where I see the cwd block that I moved Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HumbleChief Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 The line that the OP was referring to is still there after you remove that CAD block - see attached vector view of the plan you attached. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HumbleChief Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 After adjusting the walls (and it's not for sure i got them right) it LOOKS like the line is gone. Didn't mess with the parapet wall. But when looking closely there's another, smaller double line that someone else might need to fix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chief58 Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 Larry same plan we are just working on different area's, he is using 3d cad blocks on some of the corners I woked on the one where the car is and jus moved the bacg of the cad block back into the wall some Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HumbleChief Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 OK cool, I was working on the problem he posted about but there's always more areas to repair if I've got anything to do with a plan. See if you can fix this anomaly after the walls are redefined. Oh Yeah same corner the OP posted about Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACADuser Posted November 16, 2014 Author Share Posted November 16, 2014 Thanks For the tips All I changed the Stucco wall to include a 1/32" exterior layer that hid most of the lines. Still have a angles line that must be ties to the roof surface somehow. Wall Test.zip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRAWZILLA Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 After adjusting the walls (and it's not for sure i got them right) it LOOKS like the line is gone. Didn't mess with the parapet wall. New Walls 5.PNG But when looking closely there's another, smaller double line that someone else might need to fix. New Walls 6.PNG You can fix that with the new" Edit wall layer intersection" tool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACADuser Posted November 16, 2014 Author Share Posted November 16, 2014 Thanks Perry, that did the trick for most corners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACADuser Posted November 17, 2014 Author Share Posted November 17, 2014 ACAD (sorry don't know your name) you also have many many Layer sets that renamed each time you send a plan to Layout. Very few use this 'feature'. If you uncheck the box below you'll be able to mange your Layer Sets much better. layer set new 1.PNG Larry, Thanks for the tip. Is there a global setting for that or do you set it once per drawing secession? Thanks Alan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACADuser Posted November 17, 2014 Author Share Posted November 17, 2014 Thanks for all the help. Most every item has been solved from all the tips I've gotten. Only one wall issue remains on the tight side of the picture. Any tips on how to add two angled 1" rods to the canopy on the left? Wall Test.zip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rlackore Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 Rods can be made in plan with BUILD>PRIMITIVE>CYLINDER. Assign a height, position in plan, then shoot an elevation and rotate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rlackore Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 To fix the wall problem, go to the 2nd floor plan view, select the two intersecting CMU walls at the corner, open the wall dbx, and uncheck "balloon through ceiling above". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HumbleChief Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 Larry, Thanks for the tip. Is there a global setting for that or do you set it once per drawing secession? Thanks Alan Set it once per plan file or template and use that plan/template for future projects. I think Chief comes with that box checked as default. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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