rockyshepheard Posted August 22, 2020 Share Posted August 22, 2020 My questions are in the image. 1-Basically how can you put a material on front of a wall but another on the wall's side. 2-How to best fill a gap between the bottom of a pony wall on floor 1 and the top of the wall on the basement. CA file attached. Thanks to all for looking at! R windows doors terrain.plan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glennw Posted August 22, 2020 Share Posted August 22, 2020 For the corner. Select the pony wall. Edit Wall Layer Intersections (edit toolbar) Drag the wall grip so that it forms a 45deg joint between the 2 walls. For the floor gap, Select the pony wall and open it's dbx. Structure panel>Platform Intersections>Go Through Floor Below. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneDavis Posted August 22, 2020 Share Posted August 22, 2020 Great job, Rocky! Your questions were posed clearly, backed up with an annotated image, you included the plan file, and the thread title gave us the content! A model for us all. I gave you an upvote. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockyshepheard Posted August 22, 2020 Author Share Posted August 22, 2020 Thanks Gene! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockyshepheard Posted August 22, 2020 Author Share Posted August 22, 2020 Thanks for your response, Glen! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockyshepheard Posted August 22, 2020 Author Share Posted August 22, 2020 Is there a better alternative than a 45 degree corner, to color the edge of the non-pony wall? Also, the actual pony wall fix worked but it has a visible gap between itself its wall. I don't recall this happening before with pony walls. Thanks for helping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rgardner Posted August 22, 2020 Share Posted August 22, 2020 20 minutes ago, rockyshepheard said: Is there a better alternative than a 45 degree corner, to color the edge of the non-pony wall? Also, the actual pony wall fix worked but it has a visible gap between itself its wall. I don't recall this happening before with pony walls. Thanks for helping. Using the same tool you can make it go around the corner to meet with the side wall. Will work in both cases. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockyshepheard Posted August 22, 2020 Author Share Posted August 22, 2020 Ryan, I cannot find the tools mentioned. I selected the pony wall>wall specifications>layers...don't see anything about interesections. Am I in the correct location of maybe I have old version of software? Thanks, Rocky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rgardner Posted August 22, 2020 Share Posted August 22, 2020 1 hour ago, rockyshepheard said: Ryan, I cannot find the tools mentioned. I selected the pony wall>wall specifications>layers...don't see anything about interesections. Am I in the correct location of maybe I have old version of software? Thanks, Rocky 7 hours ago, glennw said: For the corner. Select the pony wall. Edit Wall Layer Intersections (edit toolbar) Drag the wall grip so that it forms a 45deg joint between the 2 walls. For the floor gap, Select the pony wall and open it's dbx. Structure panel>Platform Intersections>Go Through Floor Below. As Glenn mentioned select the wall (do not open) and use the “Edit wall layer intersections” tool that appears in the edit toolbar at the bottom. Search help if you don’t know what that tool is or does. It looks like an intersecting set of Blue walls or an L shape. if you don’t want to see the mitered corner you can pull it around so it’s a square. Other option would be to pull that whole wall 6-12” around the corner so it ends naturally. btw what he says about the spray can may be true in your case. 14 minutes ago, solver said: I'll suggest you have wall definition problems, and overuse of the spray can to apply materials. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockyshepheard Posted August 22, 2020 Author Share Posted August 22, 2020 Over use of spray can? Do you mean spraying once on wall x, then spraying once again on wall x? Thx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockyshepheard Posted August 22, 2020 Author Share Posted August 22, 2020 Oh, that doesn't show up in toolbar when I select wall. I have Premier 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rgardner Posted August 22, 2020 Share Posted August 22, 2020 2 minutes ago, rockyshepheard said: Over use of spray can? Do you mean spraying once on wall x, then spraying once again on wall x? Thx No not the connect walls button. Do you have the one wall selected? Not both. Just the wall you want to adjust the layers on. Maybe search the help files? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockyshepheard Posted August 22, 2020 Author Share Posted August 22, 2020 2 minutes ago, rgardner said: No not the connect walls button. Do you have the one wall selected? Not both. Just the wall you want to adjust the layers on. Maybe search the help files? I have only one wall selected but the blue L doesn't show up. Try it to see. windows doors terrain.plan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaskan_Son Posted August 22, 2020 Share Posted August 22, 2020 You need to select the wall in PLAN VIEW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockyshepheard Posted August 22, 2020 Author Share Posted August 22, 2020 2 minutes ago, Alaskan_Son said: You need to select the wall in PLAN VIEW. Ahh! I will try. Thx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaskan_Son Posted August 22, 2020 Share Posted August 22, 2020 10 minutes ago, rockyshepheard said: Ahh! I will try. Thx You can also select the wall in 3D but you need to select it by clicking on the top and not on the face. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockyshepheard Posted August 22, 2020 Author Share Posted August 22, 2020 I don't know how to clean up this one corner. Not sure if it is because of over definition of wall. Is someone willing to do it in the file for me? File is attached above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockyshepheard Posted August 22, 2020 Author Share Posted August 22, 2020 This is what I'm trying to achieve but it is too difficult for me. I'm overwhelmed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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rockyshepheard Posted August 22, 2020 Author Share Posted August 22, 2020 2 hours ago, solver said: Why? Why a pony wall? Why not a regular (non pony wall) wall? Well, the design of the house calls for stone that dimensionally stands away from the wall a certain distance and has a cap. Plus it can be raised to any given height unlike a wall, I assume. Therefore my question about raising it to next floor. If I used a regular wall I'd have to "inset" the yellow wall offset from the regular wall. Is dragging the only way to bring it up to the upper floor pony wall and if so, will the walls suddenly change at any given time based on some other seemingly unrelated modification? Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rgardner Posted August 22, 2020 Share Posted August 22, 2020 1 minute ago, rockyshepheard said: I think what Erick was saying is make your first floor wall just the masonry wall, make your second floor pony wall with lower wall as masonry, and the upper as the yellow wall. Set your elevation you want and it will auto build it how you want. Really discourage dragging walls as it will cause issues later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockyshepheard Posted August 22, 2020 Author Share Posted August 22, 2020 2 minutes ago, rgardner said: I think what Erick was saying is make your first floor wall just the masonry wall, make your second floor pony wall with lower wall as masonry, and the upper as the yellow wall. Set your elevation you want and it will auto build it how you want. Really discourage dragging walls as it will cause issues later. I see, but if the first floor is masonry wall, won' the second floor with pony wall stick out (cantilever wise)over the masonry wall? The first and second floors should be continuous face with not inset or outset. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockyshepheard Posted August 22, 2020 Author Share Posted August 22, 2020 My question is why won't "stop at ceiling above" do the trick? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockyshepheard Posted August 22, 2020 Author Share Posted August 22, 2020 5 minutes ago, solver said: And are you using X10? X11. Imagine you have two floors and you want a pony wall to go from ground level to the middle of the second floor. Above that is non-pony wall. If the walls in the plan view are aligned perfectly and you only put pony wall on second floor, you would have a pony wall sticking a few inches out over the first floor wall. The wall has to be smooth all the way up to the top of the pony wall. If you're thinking"Well, just make your walls non aligned and put regular wall on first floor, I cannot because I'm following the 2D ACAD file the architect gave to me. I hope you see my point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rgardner Posted August 22, 2020 Share Posted August 22, 2020 37 minutes ago, rockyshepheard said: I see, but if the first floor is masonry wall, won' the second floor with pony wall stick out (cantilever wise)over the masonry wall? The first and second floors should be continuous face with not inset or outset. Set the first floor wall to the exact same as the lower section of your upper wall and unless you have set your foundation to offset it should all line up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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