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Best way to rotate entire plan for off-angle ADU?

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I have a triangle shaped lot which was set so that the original house that I remodeled 10 years ago has walls at 0 and 90 degrees.  Now the client wants an ADU along the angled back fence, and the ADU walls will be at odd angles like -27 and 63 degrees.  I added the angles I need for the ADU into the Default Settings / Plan tab, but I'd rather temporarily rotate the whole plan while I'm designing the ADU. 

 

What's the best way to do that?  I tried searching with terms like "rotate plan" etc, but couldn't seem to pull up anything in help, Chieftalk or training videos.  I know I've seen something about it in the past, but maybe I'm not using the right search terms.  Thanks.

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Edit Area, then Transform Replicate

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You could try Rotate Plan View, but make sure you read up on how the tool actually works and the ramifications of using the tool.

Just try it on a copy of the plan first.

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I run into this issue often - and in Chief its super tough to make work in a "live" view at certain angles.  What i've done is have a separate file for the element to be on angle, but keep it in that file as a "normal" 0,90,180 degree axis for modeling and working on the design - but then make a symbol of the entire structure to show the client a realistic view of the entire project.  Rotating a symbol object is far more easy to control.

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I assume you already drew plans for the home. If so, I'd draw the ADU as a separate plan. If I needed to show them together for visuals, I'd convert the ADU to a fixture (once its complete) and place it as an object in the original plan. 

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What would be great is if Chief could give us something like this:

 

 

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1 hour ago, Christina_Girerd said:

Plan tab, but I'd rather temporarily rotate the whole plan while I'm designing the ADU. 

Don't do it!

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I would create the ADU in a separate plan

then make a 3D symbol of the house and add to library

 

then place the symbol in the original plan and rotate as needed

 

Lew

 

 

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Thanks for all the tips.  After trying the various options, I will create the ADU in a separate plan. 

 

Before I posted in here, I tried the Transform/Replicate option, thinking I'd try to select everything and then rotate, but I did not get a Rotate option.  (see attached)   I turned all the layers on, made sure nothing was locked, but something blocked it.  It worked fine on a test plan with hardly anything in it.   Then I tried the Rotate Plan View option, which seemed so easy at first, but then I found out it is really only visual and even the selection rectangles drawn are still on the original angles.  That would be super frustrating. 

 

Definitely will make a suggestion about this, to add to whatever some of you might have already suggested.  Johnny's video post sure looks nice and easy!  Can't imagine trying to create that multi-angled building in Chief right now.  Kind of fun to see that software since that was what I used before I jumped ship to Chief years ago because of Chief's easier ray tracing. 

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42 minutes ago, Christina_Girerd said:

Thanks for all the

Not really sure why no one is sticking to the edit area suggestion. the tool works perfect for me every time

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5 minutes ago, Renerabbitt said:

Not really sure why no one is sticking to the edit area suggestion. the tool works perfect for me every time

I think you're right if you're just going to model the entire structure and then rotate it at the end - but if you're building the structure in place on an angle Chief handles this poorly in my opinion. 

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The Edit Area/Transform didn't work for me in the actual plan - as I showed above, the rotate option was greyed out.  That was my first idea on how to deal with it.

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Christina,

Try excluding any cameras from your selection and then try Transform/Replicate again.

You can just lock the camera layers to prevent them from being selected.

You may also have to do a Rebuild, Walls, Floors and Ceilings which I find is needed sometimes.

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Apparently there are quite a few things that I can't include to get the Rotate to show.  Cameras, and also Roof Ridge Caps, Electrical, and after that I figured why bother...

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