Christina_Girerd Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 I have a triangle shaped lot which was set so that the original house that I remodeled 10 years ago has walls at 0 and 90 degrees. Now the client wants an ADU along the angled back fence, and the ADU walls will be at odd angles like -27 and 63 degrees. I added the angles I need for the ADU into the Default Settings / Plan tab, but I'd rather temporarily rotate the whole plan while I'm designing the ADU. What's the best way to do that? I tried searching with terms like "rotate plan" etc, but couldn't seem to pull up anything in help, Chieftalk or training videos. I know I've seen something about it in the past, but maybe I'm not using the right search terms. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glennw Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 You could try Rotate Plan View, but make sure you read up on how the tool actually works and the ramifications of using the tool. Just try it on a copy of the plan first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 I run into this issue often - and in Chief its super tough to make work in a "live" view at certain angles. What i've done is have a separate file for the element to be on angle, but keep it in that file as a "normal" 0,90,180 degree axis for modeling and working on the design - but then make a symbol of the entire structure to show the client a realistic view of the entire project. Rotating a symbol object is far more easy to control. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robdyck Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 I assume you already drew plans for the home. If so, I'd draw the ADU as a separate plan. If I needed to show them together for visuals, I'd convert the ADU to a fixture (once its complete) and place it as an object in the original plan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 What would be great is if Chief could give us something like this: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robdyck Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 1 hour ago, Christina_Girerd said: Plan tab, but I'd rather temporarily rotate the whole plan while I'm designing the ADU. Don't do it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lbuttery Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 I would create the ADU in a separate plan then make a 3D symbol of the house and add to library then place the symbol in the original plan and rotate as needed Lew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christina_Girerd Posted July 21, 2020 Author Share Posted July 21, 2020 Thanks for all the tips. After trying the various options, I will create the ADU in a separate plan. Before I posted in here, I tried the Transform/Replicate option, thinking I'd try to select everything and then rotate, but I did not get a Rotate option. (see attached) I turned all the layers on, made sure nothing was locked, but something blocked it. It worked fine on a test plan with hardly anything in it. Then I tried the Rotate Plan View option, which seemed so easy at first, but then I found out it is really only visual and even the selection rectangles drawn are still on the original angles. That would be super frustrating. Definitely will make a suggestion about this, to add to whatever some of you might have already suggested. Johnny's video post sure looks nice and easy! Can't imagine trying to create that multi-angled building in Chief right now. Kind of fun to see that software since that was what I used before I jumped ship to Chief years ago because of Chief's easier ray tracing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renerabbitt Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 42 minutes ago, Christina_Girerd said: Thanks for all the Not really sure why no one is sticking to the edit area suggestion. the tool works perfect for me every time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 5 minutes ago, Renerabbitt said: Not really sure why no one is sticking to the edit area suggestion. the tool works perfect for me every time I think you're right if you're just going to model the entire structure and then rotate it at the end - but if you're building the structure in place on an angle Chief handles this poorly in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christina_Girerd Posted July 21, 2020 Author Share Posted July 21, 2020 The Edit Area/Transform didn't work for me in the actual plan - as I showed above, the rotate option was greyed out. That was my first idea on how to deal with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glennw Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 Christina, Try excluding any cameras from your selection and then try Transform/Replicate again. You can just lock the camera layers to prevent them from being selected. You may also have to do a Rebuild, Walls, Floors and Ceilings which I find is needed sometimes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christina_Girerd Posted July 21, 2020 Author Share Posted July 21, 2020 Apparently there are quite a few things that I can't include to get the Rotate to show. Cameras, and also Roof Ridge Caps, Electrical, and after that I figured why bother... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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