SMC2992 Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 Hi friends: I have been trying to design a 4 story building with columns. Adding additional stories is no problem, but while i create the stories/floors, colums are not copied in that floor. May be i am missing something. Any one can advise. I am attaching a sample structure for this to get familiar. thanks Sample building.plan 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robdyck Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 13 hours ago, SMC2992 said: colums are not copied in that floor. Columns would not automatically transfer to a new floor, however you can easily select them all and copy them in place on other floors. Ctrl-c, switch floors, ctrl-alt-v. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC2992 Posted May 5, 2020 Author Share Posted May 5, 2020 thanks one thing more not mentioned here, can we built a glass curtain wall on a multi story building, if yes, how some thing like this or so: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robdyck Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 Yes, there are several ways one might go about this. It would be a good idea to start by examining the exterior wall definitions as they relate to the structure. Some of the details of the curtain wall would need to be modeled using 'manual' tools like solids, moldings, material regions, etc... I would need to see more of the plan for your structural connections before I could suggest anything further. Feel free to post a screenshot or detail drawing showing your proposed exterior wall assembly...curtain wall relative to columns...interior finish around columns...connections and finish at platform junctions...you get the idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC2992 Posted May 5, 2020 Author Share Posted May 5, 2020 I have attached the plan wherein i have tried to make a curtain wall with the help of nana wall, and windows, but did not succeeded. I am also facing a problem (dont know how to) lift the road level or terrain level 6' above ie join the lower of upper stair and top of the stair going downwards. thanks in advance Anwar height.plan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC2992 Posted May 5, 2020 Author Share Posted May 5, 2020 46 minutes ago, robdyck said: Yes, there are several ways one might go about this. It would be a good idea to start by examining the exterior wall definitions as they relate to the structure. Some of the details of the curtain wall would need to be modeled using 'manual' tools like solids, moldings, material regions, etc... I would need to see more of the plan for your structural connections before I could suggest anything further. Feel free to post a screenshot or detail drawing showing your proposed exterior wall assembly...curtain wall relative to columns...interior finish around columns...connections and finish at platform junctions...you get the idea. in this way can we make schedule for windows ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robdyck Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 Just now, SMC2992 said: in this way can we make schedule for windows ?? I didn't suggest any method for that and there's no 'we' on this project. But you could make a schedule of windows or a custom schedule using notes, as one example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC2992 Posted May 5, 2020 Author Share Posted May 5, 2020 55 minutes ago, SMC2992 said: in this way can we make schedule for windows ?? This WE was meant for me not for any other, it is a grammatical error no offence sir Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rgardner Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 1 hour ago, SMC2992 said: in this way can we make schedule for windows ?? If you are making the wall definition to include glass walls it will not show up in a window schedule as that is not how they are built. You can build a standard wall with other definitions but for the glass portion to show up in a schedule you would need to place window symbols into the wall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robdyck Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 48 minutes ago, SMC2992 said: This WE was meant for me not for any other, it is a grammatical error no offence sir no offense taken...just wanted to make sure you knew that help on this forum is not guaranteed, but may be available only as people have time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robdyck Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 For the curtain wall, I'd probably start by using a wall type defined with 1 layer representing the aluminum framing. Then, windows can be placed. You'll need to define a window type that works within the aluminum framing, and I'd be using cad reference lines in elevation / section view (as well as plan view) as a guide for placing and sizing the windows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joey_martin Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 With all due respect, you're using the wrong software for a building like that. Can it be done? Absolutely. Will you like the results? Ehhh... Will it be more work and trouble than it's worth? Most likely. Will it be easy to share with engineers and the like so that it will make proper sense based on construction technique? NO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC2992 Posted May 5, 2020 Author Share Posted May 5, 2020 Thankyou every one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DzinEye Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 Salahuddin, It is true that this software was designed more for typical western-style wood framed or masonry residential construction, but as the guys above have implied, you CAN do it with this software, but you will have to do a lot of things manually. If you will have an engineer, and a curtain-wall/aluminum storefront specialist involved, and you just need to provide the basic look of the building for them it will be okay. For the curtain wall, just use a glass wall type, and then 4" or so inside of that glass wall use an invisible wall all the way around to separate the floors from the glass wall, and make the space between the walls 'open to below'. You'll have to make polyline solids to represent the glass framing. Good luck. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridge_Runner Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 Nice representation, Mark - especially since it has only been a few hours since the OP posted his pic. I give you a point. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC2992 Posted May 5, 2020 Author Share Posted May 5, 2020 6 minutes ago, DzinEye said: Salahuddin, It is true that this software was designed more for typical western-style wood framed or masonry residential construction, but as the guys above have implied, you CAN do it with this software, but you will have to do a lot of things manually. If you will have an engineer, and a curtain-wall/aluminum storefront specialist involved, and you just need to provide the basic look of the building for them it will be okay. For the curtain wall, just use a glass wall type, and then 4" or so inside of that glass wall use an invisible wall all the way around to separate the floors from the glass wall, and you'll have to make polyline solids to represent the glass framing. Good luck. You are a genius Thumbs Up for you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robdyck Posted May 6, 2020 Share Posted May 6, 2020 I liked Mark's approach, but I thought I'd see if if inverting the curtain wall approach would work well. I used a wall type that was aluminum, adjusted my windows to match glazing only, and used cad reference lines to develop equal spacing representing the aluminum framing. This way the windows will show up in a glazing schedule. I also used framing posts set to be steel columns laid out on a grid. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DzinEye Posted May 6, 2020 Share Posted May 6, 2020 1 hour ago, robdyck said: I used a wall type that was aluminum, adjusted my windows to match glazing only Creative approach Robert! I think the flexibility of Chief to accomplish certain goals in many different ways is one of the attractions that many of us have to hanging around on this forum. It's a combination of puzzle solving, creativity and helping others that makes it somewhat addictive. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC2992 Posted May 16, 2020 Author Share Posted May 16, 2020 On 5/5/2020 at 5:23 AM, SMC2992 said: Hi friends: I have been trying to design a 4 story building with columns. Adding additional stories is no problem, but while i create the stories/floors, colums are not copied in that floor. May be i am missing something. Any one can advise. I am attaching a sample structure for this to get familiar. thanks Sample building.plan I am surprised to see negative points. have I offended some one??? if yes I humbly apologize for that to whom i have offended 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC2992 Posted May 20, 2020 Author Share Posted May 20, 2020 On 5/16/2020 at 4:24 PM, SMC2992 said: I am surprised to see negative points. have I offended some one??? if yes I humbly apologize for that to whom i have offended Dear All Thank you to all those friends who have removed me from negative list I don't know what that negative marks meant but they were quite embarrassing in some sense. Thank you again 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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