Michael_Gia Posted May 4, 2020 Share Posted May 4, 2020 In the image below, I have a 1 foot check on the facade of this home. At anything greater than 2 feet, I would say there's never an issue. I have a hard time having these three exterior walls meet along with the interior wall which is offset a little. The problem is, even after fiddling with the wall connections and getting it to work, it can randomly erupt into walls disconnecting or misaligning upon re-opening the file. The effect it has can not only wreak havoc on wall connections but even the colour of a nearby exterior door?! Why doesn't this program prioritize exterior wall connections over interior? If you all can tell me that there is no clear solution to this reoccurring problem then that's fine, just say it. If there is a trick then please let me know what it is. (yes, I know how to use the "edit wall layer intersection" tool.) (I even make sure I'm editing the same intersection on the floors above and below) Thanks, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DzinEye Posted May 4, 2020 Share Posted May 4, 2020 Are you saying that you want the interior wall to remain offset a little, but the short exterior wall keeps jogging over to be in-line with it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael_Gia Posted May 4, 2020 Author Share Posted May 4, 2020 no, it's just that in order to maintain a proper connection for the exterior walls I have to constantly pull back the interior wall so it's out of the way before I re-align and connect the exterior walls. After that I re-connect my interior wall and pray it doesn't screw up the exterior wall connections. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DzinEye Posted May 4, 2020 Share Posted May 4, 2020 Hmm.. still sounds like you're saying the ext. wall is automatically jogging due to that interior wall. Anyway... saw this a while ago, which may solve the problem. Pull back the interior wall a couple feet and draw a short piece of room divider wall perpendicular onto the end of it, then drag that perp. room divider wall back to the exterior walls which should pull your interior wall with it. Sometimes that keeps things from snapping in ways you don't want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael_Gia Posted May 4, 2020 Author Share Posted May 4, 2020 Thanks, that does work on occasion. It's still a work-around, which is ok, I guess. I really just wish we could set priority connections and lock exterior walls so they are never altered or re-positioned by interior walls. X13? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DzinEye Posted May 4, 2020 Share Posted May 4, 2020 24 minutes ago, Michael_Gia said: just wish we could set priority connections and lock exterior walls Somebody was just wishing for this in another post near the top somewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robdyck Posted May 4, 2020 Share Posted May 4, 2020 There's no question, this is a crappy issue. Here's a re-creation: interior wall aligned: interior wall moved 1" to the left: connections adjusted: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe_Carrick Posted May 4, 2020 Share Posted May 4, 2020 I think the problem is that the Interior wall just needs to be reversed. Then it should connect to the interior face of the main layer of the exterior wall. I know that's strange, but it seems to work - at least most of the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robdyck Posted May 4, 2020 Share Posted May 4, 2020 3 minutes ago, Joe_Carrick said: I think the problem is that the Interior wall just needs to be reversed. Then it should connect to the interior face of the main layer of the exterior wall. I know that's strange, but it seems to work - at least most of the time. That did not work for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael_Gia Posted May 4, 2020 Author Share Posted May 4, 2020 You can reverse walls and all the other little tricks and you will at one point fix the connection. The real issue is that even once it’s fixed it can inadvertently get jumbled up. The effects are not just limited to walls out of line but it can even affect material colours on nearby doors and windows. It’s bizarre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robdyck Posted May 4, 2020 Share Posted May 4, 2020 Chief and it's walls...sigh! Normal: 12" away is too close: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robdyck Posted May 4, 2020 Share Posted May 4, 2020 Okay. I've got the fix...no 12" jogs when using brick. Bricklayers don't like those anyway! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe_Carrick Posted May 4, 2020 Share Posted May 4, 2020 6 minutes ago, robdyck said: Okay. I've got the fix...no 12" jogs when using brick. Bricklayers don't like those anyway! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridge_Runner Posted May 4, 2020 Share Posted May 4, 2020 1 hour ago, robdyck said: Okay. I've got the fix...no 12" jogs when using brick. Bricklayers don't like those anyway! And not give the client what they want? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robdyck Posted May 4, 2020 Share Posted May 4, 2020 Just now, Ridge_Runner said: And not give the client what they want? it was a joke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridge_Runner Posted May 4, 2020 Share Posted May 4, 2020 3 minutes ago, robdyck said: it was a joke I know; so was mine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robdyck Posted May 4, 2020 Share Posted May 4, 2020 Just now, Ridge_Runner said: I know; so was mine. Well, shoot...egg on my face! It was your emoji that got me... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridge_Runner Posted May 4, 2020 Share Posted May 4, 2020 2 minutes ago, robdyck said: It was your emoji that got me... We have so many now that I don't know what many of them mean, especially from those with I-phones. Wouldn't it be nice if we had technology that allowed us to actually "talk" to each other? Oh wait, we do - don't we? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robdyck Posted May 4, 2020 Share Posted May 4, 2020 1 minute ago, Ridge_Runner said: We have so many now that I don't know what many of them mean, especially from those with I-phones. Wouldn't it be nice if we had technology that allowed us to actually "talk" to each other? Oh wait, we do - don't we? It would be pretty cool to bring GOOGLE MEET to this forum, with screen sharing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkMc Posted May 4, 2020 Share Posted May 4, 2020 I have had trouble with this on occasion but usually worse conditions than these. I have always managed to fix it. Not sure the difference but this worked right out of the box. Wonder if it could be resize about? grid snaps? I set my snap grid distance to 1/2" often then turn the grid snaps off. Anyway plan attached if you want to check for differences. It's from a fresh X12 template btw, changed wall fill colors for this. walls align.plan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael_Gia Posted May 5, 2020 Author Share Posted May 5, 2020 2 hours ago, MarkMc said: I have had trouble with this on occasion but usually worse conditions than these. I have always managed to fix it. Not sure the difference but this worked right out of the box. Wonder if it could be resize about? grid snaps? I set my snap grid distance to 1/2" often then turn the grid snaps off. Anyway plan attached if you want to check for differences. It's from a fresh X12 template btw, changed wall fill colors for this. That's too clean of an environment for a proper litmus test. I took your barren out of the box X12 plan and only added a basement, a roof, a couple windows and look at the mess already. See attached modified plan if you want. walls align.plan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkMc Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 3 hours ago, Michael_Gia said: See attached modified plan if you want. I did what you did-only I copied and pasted windows and doors after building roof and foundation. Have had luck in the past cutting openings, moving wall then paste in place, didn't need to here. That was on the first one, attatched is yours returned. Cut openings on right, pulled interior wall away, point to point interior wall then pulled the other end back in place; paste and hold. Left side was a bit harder, didn't mess up the exterior wall but interior wall did cut into the exteriors. This worked though-cut openings, pulled wall away, rebuild walls etc, pull wall back, paste and hold. walls align(1).plan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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