builtright3 Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 I have some fill patterns missing in X11. So far I noticed that the Angle Hatch and Cross Hatch is missing. Anyone have a clue? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenoeightspot Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 You make your own adjustments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
builtright3 Posted February 16, 2019 Author Share Posted February 16, 2019 15 minutes ago, Kenoeightspot said: You make your own adjustments. I'm sorry, am I missing something? That area is grayed out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenoeightspot Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 Select "strip" first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
builtright3 Posted February 16, 2019 Author Share Posted February 16, 2019 Ok, so I can make the pattern but why all of a sudden we loose the pre-made pattern in X11 after having it in all the other old version? Does anyone else have this problem? Or is it just me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kbird1 Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 6 minutes ago, builtright3 said: Ok, so I can make the pattern but why all of a sudden we loose the pre-made pattern in X11 after having it in all the other old version? Does anyone else have this problem? Or is it just me? they are in the Library now and you can save any custom ones you make to the library too..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
builtright3 Posted February 16, 2019 Author Share Posted February 16, 2019 7 minutes ago, Kbird1 said: they are in the Library now and you can save any custom ones you make to the library too..... There is no hatching in the library. I just don't like that it was taken out. Doesn't make sense to me. I will quit complaining and make my own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kbird1 Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 16 minutes ago, builtright3 said: There is no hatching in the library. I just don't like that it was taken out. Doesn't make sense to me. I will quit complaining and make my own. Grid at 45° I think it is now , but you are right most of the Basic ones we had before we now have to make, there is no Custom Option either anymore, so I am not sure how we access the Pattern in the Pattern Folder.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
builtright3 Posted February 16, 2019 Author Share Posted February 16, 2019 3 minutes ago, Kbird1 said: Grid at 45° I think it is now I can do an angle hatch but I don't know how to do a angle cross hatch. I guess now I need to learn how to make patterns. I typically don't make custom stuff because I'm not doing the in depth design as some others do. I only use what is available in the program. Maybe it is just a mistake by Chief programmers that it got left out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kbird1 Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 1 hour ago, builtright3 said: I can do an angle hatch but I don't know how to do a angle cross hatch. I guess now I need to learn how to make patterns. I typically don't make custom stuff because I'm not doing the in depth design as some others do. I only use what is available in the program. Maybe it is just a mistake by Chief programmers that it got left out. Angle Cross hatch is the one I said above...... Grid at 45° Grid is Cross Hatch Angle Hatch is Strip at -45 or 45° ( for left/right angled hatch) Make them all once and save to the library and you should be done in 5 mins? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaskan_Son Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 1 hour ago, Kbird1 said: Grid at 45° I think it is now , but you are right most of the Basic ones we had before we now have to make, there is no Custom Option either anymore, so I am not sure how we access the Pattern in the Pattern Folder.... Either run a library update... ...or use this... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
builtright3 Posted February 16, 2019 Author Share Posted February 16, 2019 Thanks Guy's! I should have seen it, these are very simple steps. I have had very little sleep this week because I have been starring at this computer to much. Put a lot of time in watching video's and reading the Manuel and now I'm burnt out! But I got my new templates looking real good now! Thank's Again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kbird1 Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 1 hour ago, Alaskan_Son said: Either run a library update... ...or use this... Joe and I both have the new Library Items but they don't include the Old Standards for some reason ( not a good move in my book ) but I had forgotten about the Pattern Import Function, thx. these are Chief's Patterns from X10 , from the Patterns Folder for X11 MHD Chief Fills Pre X11.calibz M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
builtright3 Posted February 16, 2019 Author Share Posted February 16, 2019 So, Is there a way to add a new pattern to this dialog box under the type? I see add to library but thats it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
builtright3 Posted February 16, 2019 Author Share Posted February 16, 2019 3 minutes ago, Kbird1 said: Joe and I both have the new Library Items but they don't include the Old Standards for some reason ( not a good move in my book ) but I had forgotten about the Pattern Import Function, thx. M. I imported patterns but they just copied what I already had in the library Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kbird1 Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 2 minutes ago, builtright3 said: I imported patterns but they just copied what I already had in the library Try the File I uploaded above , its all the old Patterns (280) from x10 imported to X11.....it doesn't include the old STDs though AFAIK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kbird1 Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 6 minutes ago, builtright3 said: So, Is there a way to add a new pattern to this dialog box under the type? I see add to library but thats it. I don't think so as the Custom Option is gone , you now need to import them into the Library 1st by the look of it. But you should be able to Import any AutoCAD etc one's you have and apply them from the Library instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
builtright3 Posted February 16, 2019 Author Share Posted February 16, 2019 34 minutes ago, Kbird1 said: Try the File I uploaded above , its all the old Patterns (280) from x10 imported to X11.....it doesn't include the old STDs though AFAIK. Sorry Mick, am i missing something? I don't see a file Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kbird1 Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 6 posts above , now with a Red File name so you can find it... M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJSpud Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 In looking at how this new dialog works, if I pick a pattern from my User library and populate a polyline (PL) box with the new pattern, by default the scale is 1.0. To see how the pattern looks I change it to a larger scale (e.g. scale 10). This gives me a much better idea about how the pattern looks and maybe 10 is the scale I want to use. But now if I change my mind and want to try a different pattern from my User library, and select and spray paint the PL box with the new fill, the scale reverts back to 1.0. For some patterns, a scale of 1.0 just doesn't show very well what the pattern looks like IMO. My preference on the way this should behave is that the new pattern would come in at scale 10.0, not revert back to the default 1.0. Seems like this new dialog might be creating some extra steps in the simple process of applying patterns. I realize I can populate my library with my favorites but still not sure that, at least for some of the standard fills I frequently used in X10 and prior, that this is a better system. Maybe I just need some time to play with this more and see how I like it a little later on. For X10 and before, I didn't necessarily like having to sort through some of the custom patterns folders to find what I wanted either. At least with this new method, we can see what the fills look like in the library preview and I really appreciate that. Which brings up a request: I would like to be able to select a fill pattern in the library browser and then be able to zoom in (the bottom display box) so I can see how some of the fills repeat themselves before I actually use them. As far as I can tell, we can't do this. We have to place the fill and then re-scale to see how the pattern looks. I don't have a super big monitor (2 @ 23") so even if I resize the preview windows for the library patterns, it is still hard to tell what they are going to look like until they are actually used. Just some thoughts from my perspective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glennw Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 2 hours ago, CJSpud said: I would like to be able to select a fill pattern in the library browser and then be able to zoom in (the bottom display box) so I can see how some of the fills repeat themselves before I actually use them. As far as I can tell, we can't do this. Doesn't the selectable Preview Width do the same as a zoom - only not as elegantly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
builtright3 Posted February 16, 2019 Author Share Posted February 16, 2019 6 hours ago, Kbird1 said: 6 posts above , now with a Red File name so you can find it... M. I still cant see it. Can you do it in blue! LOL I'm feeling like a total idiot now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
builtright3 Posted February 16, 2019 Author Share Posted February 16, 2019 Ok, so after playing around with fill for a little while I'm finding how much I like the "Fill Style Painter" on my tool bar. AS PER THE ATTACHED PICTURE: Set your preview width to 120 and it is more like you want it Put the "Fill Style Painter" on your tool bar Build your library with all your different fill patterns This is a good start! Thanks Chief! Question: How can I change the default preview width? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJSpud Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 5 hours ago, glennw said: Doesn't the selectable Preview Width do the same as a zoom - only not as elegantly. Glenn: Yes and I've used it a lot over the years. As you said, not as elegantly. But wouldn't it be great if we could just zoom in/out in the viewer pane like we do with symbols to look at some of those patterns that don't show up so well until you do other stuff? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
builtright3 Posted February 16, 2019 Author Share Posted February 16, 2019 Thank you guy's! You really helped me put things in perspective. My new templates are coming together nicely. And it helped I finally got some good sleep last night, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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