dskogg Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 I want to show a flush base and door trim anyone know how to do this easily with chief? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKitchenAbode Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 You could use the wall niche tool to create the recessed region in the drywall and then a regular base molding with the offset set to recess the base to be flush with the drywall face. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dskogg Posted January 19, 2019 Author Share Posted January 19, 2019 That seems like a whole lot of work. it would take for ever. there must be an easier way? 4 minutes ago, TheKitchenAbode said: You could use the wall niche tool to create the recessed region in the drywall and then a regular base molding with the offset set to recess the base to be flush with the drywall face. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
builtright3 Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 4 minutes ago, TheKitchenAbode said: You could use the wall niche tool to create the recessed region in the drywall and then a regular base molding with the offset set to recess the base to be flush with the drywall face. What he said Here is where you do the offset Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dskogg Posted January 19, 2019 Author Share Posted January 19, 2019 1 minute ago, solver said: Pony walls. Material Region around door. Looks good, but how do you use pony walls? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
builtright3 Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 19 minutes ago, dskogg said: Looks good, but how do you use pony walls? There are plenty of video's on how to configure pony walls in your video help section. Its really easy to setup and you can save it to the library. Also check out the video on material region. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
builtright3 Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 23 minutes ago, solver said: Pony walls. Material Region around door. Good one Eric! I was just now building one for my library for future. Good to have on hand because this is getting more popular in the residential industry. At least for me it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKitchenAbode Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 Here's another thought, just do one wall section, take a camera view straight on and save it as a jpg. take it into a photo editor and crop it to show the baseboard and recess, save that as a texture and then apply it to a standard base board set 1/16" in thickness. Might create the look. Could do the same for the door casing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dskogg Posted January 19, 2019 Author Share Posted January 19, 2019 19 minutes ago, builtright3 said: There are plenty of video's on how to configure pony walls in your video help section. Its really easy to setup and you can save it to the library. Also check out the video on material region. I completely understand how to make a pony wall and use material regions for grooves but pony walls only allow two types of walls. so the inset about base can not be made with a pony wall can it? using material regions for that groove is time consuming and they are not easy to line up. eric it would be great if you elaborated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKitchenAbode Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 This is just a stacked baseboard molding. bottom piece 4 1/8", next piece 1/8", next piece 1/2", final piece 1/8". To the 1/2" piece I used a gradient color/texture, they are in the materials color library. This creates the showdown look that gives the appearance of depth. The two 1/8" pieces are just a bit of a different shade to emphasize the edges. The entire molding is just 1/16" thick. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dskogg Posted January 19, 2019 Author Share Posted January 19, 2019 4 minutes ago, TheKitchenAbode said: This is just a stacked baseboard molding. bottom piece 4 1/8", next piece 1/8", next piece 1/2", final piece 1/8". To the 1/2" piece I used a gradient color/texture, they are in the materials color library. This creates the showdown look that gives the appearance of depth. The two 1/8" pieces are just a bit of a different shade to emphasize the edges. The entire molding is just 1/16" thick. So 4 different moldings? But then you don’t get true reveal as it wraps around corners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKitchenAbode Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 3 minutes ago, dskogg said: So 4 different moldings? But then you don’t get true reveal as it wraps around corners. Not too bad considering it took only a few minutes to create and can be applied globally to every wall in the house. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaskan_Son Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 Sorry David, I don't think there is any "easy" way. All the methods are going to be pretty time consuming. One of those situations where you have to ask yourself how important it really is to model in 3D. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dskogg Posted January 19, 2019 Author Share Posted January 19, 2019 3 minutes ago, TheKitchenAbode said: Not too bad considering it took only a few minutes to create and can be applied globally to every wall in the house. Goo hack.. but it kind defeats purpose of having a 3D design program. what about having a pony wall with lower wall a 1/8” thick 4.5” black layer over studs and then somehow recess a 3/8”x4” base and the difference will be the recess? Maybe this is what Eric did? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKitchenAbode Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 5 minutes ago, dskogg said: Goo hack.. but it kind defeats purpose of having a 3D design program. Well if you kind of think about it, the screen you are working on is only 2 dimensional so that 3D from a visual perspective is really just a trick. If you really need the real thing then pony walls are good way to accomplish this, probably less work than using niches to cut through the drywall finish, at least for the baseboard detail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kbird1 Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 A Frame Only Pony Wall the same height as the Base + Flooring and a Custom Moulding will achieve this it looks like If the inset is the Tradition Black (Shadow Detail) you could make the Custom Base as two pieces instead , here It is just one..... ......... try this moulding...set Pony wall to 6 15/16" Shadow Detail Base 6inch.calibz the Door Trim will be a lot trickier I think..... can't believe this is making a comeback..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dskogg Posted January 19, 2019 Author Share Posted January 19, 2019 Here are some drywall trims to use with base Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kbird1 Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 Two piece mould works well for the base if you want the shadow Detail... make the Top piece an upside down L shape so it is the back and top only then it can be made Black for the Shadow..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockyshepheard Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 (edited) 8 hours ago, builtright3 said: Good one Eric! I was just now building one for my library for future. Good to have on hand because this is getting more popular in the residential industry. At least for me it is. How did you achieve this? My base molding disappears when its offset is negative. Edited January 20, 2019 by rockyshepheard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaskan_Son Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 15 minutes ago, rockyshepheard said: How did you achieve this? My base molding disappears when its offset is negative. No need for the negative offset if you use the pony wall approach if the molding is supplied by the room. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kbird1 Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 48 minutes ago, solver said: ??? If the Pony Wall is Frame Only it's not needed ...it's what I did above.... I guess you just used a 1" thinner wall? actually I think you used a 0" think black layer over the Framing to make the Shadow..... probably a better Idea than the 2 mouldings I used above.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaskan_Son Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 On 1/19/2019 at 5:48 PM, Kbird1 said: If the Pony Wall is Frame Only it's not needed ...it's what I did above.... The pony wall just needs to have a reduced or removed interior drywall layer is all. And P.S. If you use a casing with a profile kinda like this... along with an appropriate rough opening dimension around the door, you can actually get the automatic recess too. Adding a custom color in the groove around the door isn't so auto using this method though... Okay, I'm done with this particular discussion for now. WAY too easy to spend too much time messing around with and discussing the methods for this type of thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kbird1 Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 Yep getting the Black shadow detail on the Door Casing is an issue as we can't build up the molding ( ie add a backband) like we can with the Base. A Material Region works but you wouldn't want to do that for Every Door in a House , but for a few Views i guess it wouldn't be Bad, nice thing is the WMR cuts itself out in the Door so you can make one 1/2" taller than the Door with Casing and an 1" wider and you are good to go.... no need for 1/2" strips... I noticed Earlier that setting the Door to Recessed to Main Layer so casing is flush to drywall only works on the exterior side of the Door/wall M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
builtright3 Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 To bad we can't use a negative number for the casing to inset it The base is easy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockyshepheard Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 I would love to see a video on this specific case if someone had the time to demonstrate. Thanks all! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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