MarkMc

I also use 3 screens set on an angle-17 laptop, 27 2k primary, 24" 1920 x 1200 (about the same height as the 27"). Partly is suits how I work, I can move a window from one to another with a single click or a keyboard. I have a 42" I use in client meetings but not suited to me day to day. I wear trifoacals, the second widest size cut. I tried progressives back when I was in the shop, ditched them in a week, couldn't see both my left hand and the fence on the table saw. Just went through new glasses this year and asked about the improvements to progressives, after a bit of discussion ended up with the trifocal. I still have to turn to see the side screens full on but can tell what window is on tip in my peripheral, better on the right than the left though and likely to get worse.

File is empty, you have to close it before zipping or posting.

You have to change the rendering technique to vector view first, then plot lines will be available, not available from a line drawing.

Was about to answer but Eric is correct, more useful to others placed there. Answer is ready when you follow his advice.

Molding profiles in Chief are 2D they don't become 3D until you use them with one of the molding/trim tools. Chief can use "molding symbols" which are 3D objects but that doesn't look like what you are after. There are much simpler ways to get what you want- There are a very large number of molding profiles available in manufacturer catalogs once you have the program (the one you are showing will be in several cabinet brands and likely a couple of molding catalogs) Import a 2D dwg. (lots of molding suppliers have them on the web) It will import into a CAD detail (one reason to get Premier). Once imported yo have to click each line near a corner till you see the snap indicater-don't have to move it. Go around to each line and do that until it suddenly gets a fill-that means it is now a closed polyline. Add to library. select an existing molding profile, right click and "insert into plan" then modify it- flip, rotate, resize, mirror, add points and curves, change curves to straight... When done-"add to library" start from scratch with polylines or just lines and learn how to work with that part of the program (2D CAD) import an image or pdf and trace over it-then add to library (this one is tricky to get scale correct) (least favorite method)

I'm not sure if it's the plan got corrupted or something you did somewhere. I'd send it in since something is odd. I just tested the defaults. Currently you have that cathedral door specified in the "Front, side back" tab of the wall cab default so it does make sense that you would need to make it a custom face. (the default door tab lists slab door) If I change it in the default either manually the cabinet changes correctly in the dbx. What is weird is that the cabinet in the plan changes to the white arched mullion door-the first few times I tried it... even though it is set to use the default. Then on the third or 4th time checking it suddenly is ok??

NO - I tried the "door/drawer" tab in the cabinet DBX and that did nothing. Went back to "Front, Side Back" tab. Select front and it's greyed out. Use the drop down to change the front to custom face, then pick the door and change it OR hit clear with the door selected in which case it reverts to the default (a white mullion door)

Worked for me BUT did you just try to change the default door? I had to go to the face configuration- the door style was set there as specific -changing it there or selecting clear both worked. Here it is back edited to framed doors just in case. edited.zip

Even if it does schedules make it a easier to get the information into an order (WM or any other). A lot cleaner IMO. I'm doing a free webinar July 11th on schedules and ordering in. Posted elsewhere in the QA on how to sign up. I worked for a BH/WM dealer for 8 yrs. The distributor in NY wanted plans done the way you're doing them (they also wanted all the mods/options listed on the plans-got messy IMO. If I had to do that nowadays I'd be making it automatic from the cabinet. Would have to revisit the Chief WM cat. Did a project for my former employer a year ago. The BM/WM cats in Chief have some advantages but I'd still be hacking it if I had to use it steadily but it's a head start

Figure out where you want the label for one cabinet and check the label offset (y=16 in example) then select by match properties ( I use a hotkey) select the height (42") enter, enter again and change the y offset. You may want to change the base cabinets offset as well. AND you might want to slightly reduce your label size. I use schedules with callouts to avoid this problem and facilitate ordering. Oh and images formats are preferred if it's just an image since then no download needed.

First image shows "Section View Set" "Using active defaults", second view shows "Floor Plan Set" & "Floor Plan Anno". Likely forgot to save Plan view or change layerset before sending to layout.

Welcome aboard. BTW this really belongs in the Q & A section. Tips is "I have a tip", QA is "I want to know"-happens a lot. You'll also see suggestions to fill out your signature which can help getting answers. In any case-for kitchens l use 11-17 most often. Allows me to print lots/often in color without care. I work on retainer I get pretty free handing clients revisions. Easy to reprint when the installer's dog eats the prints. I'm often asked for some pages in progress (electric, framing/blocking, mechanical/plumbing, lighting) even though the kitchen is final but far enough along. I can scan site measurements with the same machine so I always have a clean copy Arch D which is easier to layout depends on the project. Often when that is needed for a kitchen I'm collaborating with an architect who just wants something to drop into their drawings. FWIW I looked into 18 x 24 and decided it was not worth it for me to add in house. Most often I provide-: Cover page with notes layout table (sometimes a legend)-Numbered cabinet schedule(s), numbered/dimensioned floor plan, numbered/dimensioned elevations, floor plan with plain English descriptions (cabinet map), details for the installer (what depends on the installer some get more), page with few 3D views (varies a lot what) something in the way of lighting/electric, there is usually a page or two needed for the cabinet manufacturer which I include for the client anyway. Appliance cut sheets if needed. When needed- I add in existing/demo/construction plans, framing if applicable, more detail, whole building map when multiple rooms. When structural specs are needed I may included something but lists certification by others (most of the engineers want to do the drawing themselves) I always drawer at minimum a complete box and the adjacent rooms to size. In many cases I will go so far as several rooms out for views, add correct roof and deck (great to check duct clearance location) It's all a good bit more than someone is going to get from the average 2020 jockey but once templates are set up in Chief it's not that much extra work besides-clients love it, makes contractors very happy, cuts down on phone calls, covers my butt, overall it gets me work. Kitchen Templates- Layout template is set up with all possible pages delete or move what's not needed. Plan template starts with 4 walls, a "0,0" marker, half a dozen elevations which are already sent to the layout (move them add/delete as needed), a couple of perspective cameras (same as elevations), a couple of CAD detail pages (schedules are set in one, legends in another, odds and ends in the third-need to work on all that a little). Most often I import defaults from other plans, have taken to using two different groups of anno-sets (new construction and remodel), have not fully implemented plan views on my own work (been doing to much for others) I keep two raised ranch plan templates (left and right) since I see so many of those. Splits, walk outs I'll grab an old file and copy edit area if it will be easy enough to adjust. I have samples of a few larger kitchen/remodel projects in 11-17 on my website- Drawing samples. They're ok (meh)- appliance cuts were removed, several were composited together (in a hurry) from drawings that were handed in over time (bit of a hodge podge if you ask me) a few would have been better as Arch D but work flow got in the way. One of these days I'll fix up the website, samples and photos (it's on the list-ha).

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Like Cheryl said- you can have BOTH - (to framing for the electrician, to rock for the cabinet installer) in different views with a click. If you're going to demo do it with X10- for cabinets there have been leaps starting with X8. FWIW I started with 2020 at V5 something and dropped it after V9, had started checking Chief out around V7 or 8 (not the X series) and switched at X3. One of the big reasons I switched was control of dimensions, notes and schedules. I'm doing a (free) webinar in July if you want to stop in. It's going to cover how to most efficiently get a cabinet schedule in Chief that you can export for pricing but to show that some other useful things will be covered (though I'm not going to cover dimensions or layouts). You will get a sense of what is possible from it, guaranteed. Info on the webinar and how to sign up is listed here

Thanks for the plug Perry, you're always welcome to attend (along with any of the usual suspects). I'm not too concerned about it filling up with KDs, and the limit is arbitrary, I'm allowed many more.Email me (markmc at the domain listed in my sig) and I'll send along an invite, meeting is scheduled so I sending them off as they come in.

Scott Harris suggested that to start this thread, in light of the upcoming webinar I'm doing - to "also spark a how-to pricing conversation" I'll incorporate anything relevant from this into the webinar. So-Cabinet dealers/ kitchen designers, using Chief, how are you doing pricing? What problems are you running into? What do you find lacking in Chief ? (aside from an actual price catalog which I don't expect to happen) For myself- been using Chief since X3. At first I would redo in 2020 to get pricing (usually just with an item list). But for a very long time I've carried brands that don't support that or Chief. Eventually I found a way to get some of the needed informatin into a schedule in Chief and get it out. I've used Chief schedules combined with either online ordeing system or a spreadsheet template (depending on brand) for every job for about 5or 6 years now. For along time it was kludgy. Since the advent of the OIP in X9 things got manageable, the additons to the OIP in X10 were a huge leap. I combine cabinets saved to a library folder per mfg, default settings, some cabinet hacks turning miscelaneous items into cabinet doors, and using "schedule freindly" items to add things like moldings to the schedule..

Send an email so I can send an invite. markmc at markjamesandco.com

The exterior layer material Enduit Talouche comes up as missing on my machine which may just be because I don't have it BUT replacing in the wall definition with even a simple color solves the problem

If Ray Tracing I'd bump the processor , for PBR that may not be needed. If meant to be a primary (run all day) machine I'd want to check reviews on heat and throttling.

Here ya go

Going to have a web meeting (free, using Zoom.us) July 11th at 2 pm Eastern Time ends at 4 pm Eastern, limit 25 attendees. Will be recorded (if I don’t muck that up). If interested get in touch - markmc at markjamesandco.com Please include: what you do (KD, dealer, builder, etc) anything in particular you are interested in (no promises but I’ll see if I can make adjustments) how long you’ve used Chief, current version and what you used before if anything. This is open to all but keep in mind it’s meant for kitchen designers and others who need to create a cabinet order or develop pricing working in Chief Architect (call it a 2020 refugee camp In general- creating a schedule with all the information needed generate an order in a spreadsheet template of using an online ordering system. It’s based on part of the system I’ve used with Chief for the last few years as a kitchen designer/dealer updated for X10 (70% of it will work in X9-time to upgrade) The general idea at this point it: Basic cabinet configuration Using the OIP for mods and accessories Defaults-basic face configuration, OIP for defaults, few quirks & gotchas in the default settings More cabinet configurations, saving to library, library management for brands and projects and defaults Q&A-roundtable Quick design sample using hotkeys and replace from library Adjusting the modifications per item Getting non-cabinet items into the schedule -moldings, millwork, corbels, etc. Q&A-roundtable Schedule and Export Schedule set up, multiple schedules Checking the schedule against intent Exporting the schedule, adjusting the spreadsheet tricks to speed pricing, using pdf catalog for lookup, in a spreadsheet template, checking (brief) Using an online system (the only online order system I currently have access to is a complete custom brand I’m going to use a portion of a recording I made in the past for this but may reach out to someone to work in that part) Q & A IF time allows I can touch on creating detail drawing for the manufacturer, checking the details against the print. Current attendees not all are forum regulars- CharlesVolz, Cheryl_C_Crane, scottharris, Susan Durling, Andrew, GerryT, Paul Machado (maybe on vacation), Robert Zebrowski, a few folks from QCCI (on a single feed), Tim_Houston, Johnny

If I understand correctly-you want a view with callouts and other views to have labels? Is this what you're after? If that is it I got this from someone on here recently (think it was Alaskan Son?) Add callout manually with %schedule_number% for the callout label, add a text line with arrow sete to auto-position head and tail. Once you have them in place you can change the line style for the layer to the blank.

Sorry about missing you need X8 and not 9 My solution back then was to set default cabinets to have 0" counters so schedules read the correct height. I always use custom countertops so that was not really an issue, just need to keep one somewhere set to thickness and height you need with the height and thickness set (NOT set from cabinet). I still use custom counters for my finals since I find them more manageable for my needs (like getting a countertop drawing).

Eric is correct and they gave it to us in X9-no need for a macro.

Well I was mistaken again (besides I've been using the ALDO to change things since it existed without issue) I'm getting this problem all over, nothing works for more than a blink of an eye. I'm slammed until tomorrow, (this does not help) then will document, call support and pretty sure I'm going to roll back to the last release. I have not let WIN update in weeks so it ain't that.